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Re: peak current when spark gap fires

Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson" <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

No, it's not.
It's energy your putting in to every bang at a given break rate.
The energy is stored for a given amount of time (as based on the break rate). To be realistic, because your breakrate will actually vary above and below the specific, so will the current in the primary (above and below 245 amps). This is quite accurate and well known by most coilers (new coilers may not be aware). Feat not, it's no big deal. 

Take care,
Bart

Tesla list wrote:


Original poster: John <guipenguin@xxxxxxxxx>
I don't understand how it would be 245 amps every time the spark gap fires.... it would make sense in an energy storage bank because the capacitors would have to take time to charge, but at 120 bps? Thats more energy then your putting in. 



On 10/21/06, Tesla list <<mailto:tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Original poster: Vardan <<mailto:vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

Hi,

This page explains the SQRT(2) factor and how it is found:
<http://www.ee.unb.ca/tervo/ee2791/vrms.htm>http://www.ee.unb.ca/tervo/ee2791/vrms.htm 

Cheers,

         Terry


At 10:27 PM 10/20/2006, you wrote:
>Say was does the SQR of 2 come from. It easy to imagine .707 * peak or
>rms/.707 hmm Root Means square...to the Inet. Never mind the math gets out
>there for a "collection of n".
>
>Elementary but I don't remember covering it that way.
>
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>Original poster: Vardan < <mailto:vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>vardan01@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>
>Hi,
>
>There is a list of such formulas here:
>
> http://hot-streamer.com/temp/FormulasForTeslaCoils.pdf
>
>The formula you want is at the top of page 6.
>
>However, you already figured it out almost correctly ;-)  The thing I
>would change is the actual voltage the gap fires at.  If your NST is
>rated at 12000V RMS then the peak voltage will be 12000 x SQRT(2) =
>16970 V.  So the primary peak current is probably 245 amps.
>
>Cheers,
>
>          Terry
>
>
>At 09:23 PM 10/19/2006, you wrote:
> >Hello. I am new to a lot of this, so I want to make sure I got this
> >correct. Did I do this right to find the peak current when the spark
> >gap fires? Assuming the only inductance in the calculation is the
> >primary coil....
> >
> >Surge impedance = sqrt(Lp / Cp)      my primary is around 48.029uH
> >according to calculations, and capacitor is
> >0.01uF    so  sqrt(0.000048 / 0.00000001F ) = 69.282     and then
> >current peak = Vp / Surge impedance  so  12000 / 69.282   = 173.205
> >amps?   This is most likely way wrong :P