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Re: Terry's filter question



Original poster: Shaun Epp <scepp@xxxxxxx>


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Sent: Monday, March 27, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Terry's filter question


Original poster: "Lau, Gary" <Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>

> Original poster: norman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> I have several questions about the components used in Terry's filter.
>
> 1. Since the safty spark gap acts somewhat like an MOV (a nonlinear
resistor
> why
> use an MOV?

The trouble with safety gaps is that their breakdown voltage is
ill-defined and subject to misguided adjusting.  The threshold voltage
of a MOV string is fixed and assuming you use the correct, prescribed
number of MOV's, will result in a tamper-proof, effective clamp.  In
theory the safety gap alone should be adequate, but we're all human.

> 2. Whenever I see MOVs in protection circuits they are always shunted
by small
> caps as in Terry's filter.  Is this because the MOVs are slow?

No, the MOV's and resistor/capacitors form two unrelated protection
elements.  The MOV's form a last-ditch overvoltage clamp.  The R-C
network forms a low-pass filter to remove high frequency transients.
Each is independent of the other.

> 3. I plan on using twenty 56 ohm 1/2 Watt resistors in series in place
of the
> 100 Watt 1k resistor.  If the safty gap fires occasionally will the
resistors
> fry?  The instantaneous power is huge but the average power is low.
> My coil uses a 15k 30mA NST

>From a voltage standpoint your plan is sound, but your resulting string
will only be rated for 28 Watts, so it will run a great deal hotter than
a 100W resistor.  Might be OK, just be prepared for hot!

> Norman Scheinberg

Regards, Gary Lau
MA, USA

Your Vpeak across each resistor will be 530 volts which is alittle high for a half watt resistor, although coilers have been using half watt resistors for much higher voltages, check the specs :-)

I think the 100 watt resistors were used because they are physically big to stand off the high voltage. If you work out the power on a 1000 ohm resistor with 30mA through it you get about 1 watt.

Those MOVs are hard to get, sometimes a two or three month lead on delivery from Digikey.


Shaun Epp