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RE: Cap Formulas (fwd)



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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 22:39:00 -0500
From: Victor Yoo <vlysvc@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Tesla list' <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Cap Formulas (fwd)

Well from the response I think you are wrong there Mr. Lau, Gary! State of
the art TC's are not yet as powerful as the Buggy Whip old tried and true! I
do not intend on getting rich from these, that would spoil the intension of
supplying an affordable solution to the masses other than spending countless
nights soldering MMC's together. Ask Jim Mora what it is like, He is
building a massive one now!

Victor


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Subject: Re: Cap Formulas (fwd)

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:38:43 EST
From: Mddeming@xxxxxxx
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Cap Formulas (fwd)

Hi Gary,
 
It's true that probably no one is going to get rich doing it, BUT....
 
In a message dated 12/13/06 5:39:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tesla@xxxxxxxxxx writes:

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006  15:20:56 -0500
From: "Lau, Gary" <Gary.Lau@xxxxxx>
To: Tesla list  <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Cap Formulas (fwd)

>Why  would it be useful to remove oils from handling, if it will
>ultimately  be submerged in oil?


Probably because oils from handling contain conductive salts.
 

>But more importantly, rolled caps have gone the way of the buggy  whip.
 
 
The manufacture and distribution of Model-T Ford parts is still a 
million-dollar business in the U.S. 
 
Ebay item # 260063956614 is a brand new buggy whip.
 

>While you may have a relatively good way to build them, no one will  want
>them.
 
 
Forty years ago, RCA announced the demise of the vacuum tube  amplifier.
Last year,  audiophiles sent over a million dollars to Russia because 
they were too "backward" to stop making tubes.
 
 
>No coiler who is aware of the state of the art of coiling  is
>going to buy a DIY rolled cap over an MMC, and it's doubtful that  the
>price or reliability could be made competitive with an MMC.  
 
 
I did, five years ago, from someone on this list, and it's still  going.
 
 
>The only appeal of a DIY rolled cap is that YOU made it, with no charge
for 
your
>labor.  If someone else makes it, their significant labor  and equipment
>investment is not free, and no personal pride.  Then  there's that nasty
>business of if you make and sell it, does it come with  any sort of
>warranty?




The one I bought also looks cool!
 
 
>Most HV commercial caps are made of multiple sections wired in  series,
>to keep any one section from seeing too high a voltage.  I  think
>something to do with corona inception voltage - an unavoidable  situation
>where a dielectric of any quality or thickness will degrade and  fail if
>exposed to the corona that occurs if the voltage is too  high.  A rolled
>cap must take the same thing into  consideration.


Good points to consider!
 

>Gary Lau
>MA, USA
 
Matt D.

Contrarian
 
"I'll build a state-of-the-art TC when they pry my last spool of  
double-cotton-covered wire from my arthritic fingers."




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