Re: Noob question

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Original poster: "Malcolm Watts" <m.j.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Jim,
        If it doesn't emit output sparks you may find yourself
burning up primary components in short order.

Malcolm

On 25 Sep 2005, at 17:04, Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: Jim Fraley <trib35man@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>  > Original poster: Terry Fritz
> <vardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  >
>  > Hi Jim,
>  >
>  > At 11:25 AM 9/25/2005, you wrote:
>  >
>  >> Hi group.
>  >>     I am quite new here. just been soaking it up
> for a
>  >> few days. I do
>  >> have a question about general coil construction. I
> am
>  >> wanting to build a
>  >> "small" Tesla Coil according to the patents.
>  >
>  >
>  > Cool!!  But which patents?  All of Tesla'a patents
> were for fairly
>  > large machines and are sort of out of date by 100
> years ;-)  But there
>  > are plenty of ways of making coils today....
>
> Hmm.. I guess I'm talking about 593,138, but with the
> addition of the
> spark gap or tube switch driven by solid state
> electronics.
>
>  >
>  >> I am
>  >> shooting for 20kHz as
>  >> my resonant freq. (for a specific application which
>  >> many of you can
>  >> probably guess).
>  >
>  >
>  > That is a very low frequency in general but probably
> possible.  "I"
>  > can't guess what it is for?
>  >
> Dr. Tesla said that 20kHz was an upper end of
> operation, that higher
> frequencies might be practicable.  Today we see coils
> at much higher
> frequencies. But his invention brought radiant energy
> (aetheric) into
> 3-d space. This is what I am after. I don't believe
> the coils built for
> light shows today conform to Dr. Tesla's specification
> (which he
> stressed must be followed) and so are useful only for
> lightning shows. I
> want to tap the Radiant energy in the Natural medium.
>
> I chose the frequency of 20 kHz as a starting point
> because that's near
> the frequency Stanley Meyer was working at. Can you
> guess now what i'm
> after? ;-)
>
> Dr Peter Lindemann's book, "Free energy secrets of
> Cold Electricity"
> draws close parallels between the thestatika machine,
> the EV Gray motor,
> and Tesla's coils. Since it's probably easier to wind
> a coil than to
> build a van degraaf generator and leyden jars and all
> the kit, or to
> copy Edwin Gray's converter tube, I am exploring this
> route to tap the
> aether. Ideally my coil will sit in the corner of a
> room, completely
> quietly filling its collector plate with a positive
> electrical charge
> and providing at least some electricity for my home.
> It is in a sense
> the antithesis of most coils built by people on this
> list. If anyone has
> tried this already, I would love to hear from him and
> learn from his
> experience.
>
>  >>  I figured the secondary has to be
>  >> about 2.35 mi. in
>  >> length.
>  >
>  >
>  > That is the 1/4 wave length of 20kHz...  For Tesla
> coils, the 1/4 wave
>  > length is really NOT important.  But it will take
> about that much wire
>  > to wind a coil with that low of frequency.
>  >
>
> I hope no one is offended by my definition of Tesla
> coil, but it doesn't
> include anything not built to his spec, as closely as
> is practicable.
> His machines were pure non-oscillating DC impulse
> driven. He spoke of
> "tens of thousands of horsepower" and of a return of
> 1000 times the
> input energy.
>
>  >> I am not looking for spark length out of this
>  >> pup,
>  >
>  >
>  > Wha!! =:O
>  >
> I seek to build a coil that will not even emit a
> spark, which Tesla said
> was wasted power.
>
>  >> rather a
>  >> proof-of-concept WRT radiant energy.
>  >
>  >
>  > :o)
>  >
> Ahh, you understand.
>
>  >> Are there
>  >> references available that
>  >> would assist a person with "modest" mathematical
>  >> ability in constructing
>  >> a suitable coil?
>  >
>  >
>  > If you want to radiate power, a Tesla coil is
> probably a poor choice.
>  > There is a discussion going on about "Tesla Coil RF
> Transmitter"...
>  >
> Radiant power in the aetheric sense. A true Tesla coil
> (according to
> Tesla's patent cited above) does not emit Hertzian
> radio waves, but
> something of a different nature entirely. Radiant
> energy which can be
> picked up by copper plates and used to drive a load
> and then the other
> wire goes to ground. Brilliant, actually, and probably
> more related to
> Nathan Stubblefield's work than Marconi's.
>
>  > In short, conventional Tesla coils "contain" their
> fields very well
>  > and really don't allow the power "out" very far.
> Tesla's great world
>  > power system is "usually" believed to not be
> workable and has serious
>  > flaws.
>  >
>
> "If I can't put a meter on it, There's no way I am
> backing it", Mr.
> Westinghouse said.
>
>  > There are programs and as much math as you want for
> designing Tesla
>  > coils, it is pretty easy for the most part.
>  >
>
> wow, great. where do i find the proggies?
>
>  >> I want to follow Tesla's patent as
>  >> much as possible
>  >> (conical secondary and all). How do I figure the
>  >> capacitance i need for
>  >> the beastie?
>  >
>  >
>  > The primary capacitance is mostly determined by how
> you are powering
>  > the coil.  The primary coil can easily be adjusted
> as needed.  It
>  > would help if we knew exactly which patent you are
> following?
>  >
> 593,138
> I'll be powering it with wall current, run up to about
> 4kv and through a
> bridge rectifier. Then I am considering using either a
> vacuum triode (if
> i can find one that will switch fast enough) or a
> counterrotating spark
> gap for the disruptor. the capacitor and disruptor are
> described in the
> patent text but the illustration doesn't show it.
> Lindemann's book
> includes it. (figure 21 in chapter 3)
>
>  > Cheers,
>  >
>  >         Terry
>  >
>
> thanks for your quick and thoughtful response!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jim