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Re: saltwater capacitance



Original poster: Terry Fritz <vardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi,

If the construction and bottle type can be described so we all understand it, I bet one of use with meters and a few similar bottles or whatever could quickly test it and come up with a pretty educated number....

Cheers,

        Terry

At 09:31 PM 9/23/2005, you wrote:

There is a Univ in Regina. Take a filled bottle down there to the EE dept and ask a tech to check it for you. It only takes seconds and is very accurate.

Outside connect to outer foil. Inside just connects from a cork stopper with 12 AWG solid wire down into the saltwater which forms the "inner foil" due to the conductivity of the saltwater.

Dr. Resonance


Original poster: "Daniel Giv'r" <transworldsnowboarding19@xxxxxxxxxxx>

hi, I live in Regina, Saskatchewan,
Canada.   Would it be easier to just measure the
volume with a measuring cup and pouring the
liquid inside?  i dont exactly know how to
measure it though... and also, where do i put the
elecctrodes that go from power source to primary
coil?  like in the water of the big jug and into
the bottles or just put aluminum foil on the bottoms and connect to that?


From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: saltwater capacitance
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 14:54:18 -0600

Original poster: "D.C. Cox" <resonance@xxxxxxxxxx>


Due to the difficulty in determining the precise surface area of an irregular shaped bottle, it's a lot easier and more accuate to measure it. Just haul one down to any large Univ. EE dept and ask a researcher to take a measurement for you. Inexpensive handheld meters like the Wavetek 37 will do it in a few seconds. Where do you live?


Dr. Resonance



Original poster: "Daniel Giv'r" <transworldsnowboarding19@xxxxxxxxxxx>

hey how do i calculate the capacitace of 12 saltwater capacitors?
thanks
Daniel

From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: tesla@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: DRSSTC Additional questions
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2005 18:12:44 -0600

Original poster: Skip Greiner <sgreiner@xxxxxxxxx>

Hi all
Ok, the primary feedback using Steve's two coil system works great. New questions


1. The tuning of the system is much broader than any TC that I have ever built. There is little difference in spark length when adding or subtracting two or three turns to the primary. Is this typical of DRSSTCs? Per JAVATC the coupling is between .18 and .2. The resonant frequency seems to hold pretty steady at 285khz regardless of the turns in the primary.

2. Doubling the tank cap size definitely lowers the resonant frequency and the input current goes up dramatically but there is little effect on the spark length and the primary turns still seem to have minor effect on the spark length up to a certain point. Are others seeing the very broad tuning that I seem to be getting.

So far I am only inputting 60vac to the full wave dc bridge and spark length is approaching 12". The secondary is only 18.5" long. I am leery of increasing the input voltage until I understand this apparent broad tuning.
Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks Steve and everyone for the feedback help.
Skip