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Re: option 1 or option 2.....
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- Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:28:46 -0700
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Original poster: Terry Fritz <vardin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi,
The difference between the 940 series caps and the 942 series is
current handling. From the data sheets at:
http://www.cde.com
http://www.cde.com/filmframe.htm
We can compare the currents:
CAP Peak Current RMS Current
940C20P15K 144 8.9
942C20P15K 432 13.5
The actual destruct point is about 1.5X these rated values:
CAP Peak Current RMS Current
940C20P15K 216 17.8
942C20P15K 864 27.0
If you run the 940 series bellow 216 peak amps and 17.8 amps RMS then
everything will be just fine. If you run more, they will burn
up. Too much RMS current will overheat them and too much peak
current will blow the metal connections.
Obviously, a given coil might be very happy with the 940 series so it
is not surprising that some coils work fine with them. However, the
942 series is far stronger and what all the charts are made to
conform too. Typically, people watch out for RMS heating so
overheating is often avoided. However, end plates blowing out is
sudden, dramatic, and fatal.
So it all depends on the currents "your" coil is seeing as to which
cap is best. Of course, we always recommend the strongest and best as a rule.
Cheers,
Terry
At 07:10 PM 11/11/2005, you wrote:
In a message dated 11/11/05 2:56:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tesla@xxxxxxxxxx writes:
Original poster: "seanick" <edgarsbat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
I disagree with the statement that 940C's don't survive moderate use.
They aren't as good as 942C's, sure, but I have 4 strands of 10 3Kv
.1uF 940c's that have withstood a couple years so far. That includes
many times when the coil was misconfigured (most of the time? ) which
is worse on the caps than running perfectly tuned, if I am not
mistaken.
Snippp
When I was much younger, Thor Heyerdahl and his crew
successfully crossed the south Pacific on a balsawood raft (Kon
Tiki) Years later, they successfully crossed the south Atlantic in
a boat made of papyrus.(The Ra expedition). But, if a young sailor
had asked him to recommend an ocean-going vessel, I doubt he
would have recommended either one. On the other hand, a friend of
mine built a rowboat using tongue and groove lumber which naval
acrhitechts agree is a terrible choice. It sank during its 43rd season.
Endorsements drawn from a sample of one experience need to be taken
with enough salt to make several bucket caps. A more supportable
original statement would have been that 940Cs are much more likely
to have a significantly shorter life expectancy in TC service than 942Cs.
But here again, mortality tables do not determine the fate of a
single individual, they only point out the better way to place long
term bets. My suggestion: If you have the 940Cs, use them, run to
failure, then get 942Cs. If you have the funds and a choice, go for the 942s.
Either WILL work for a while.
Matt D.
Matt D.