Original poster: "Mike" <induction@xxxxxxxxxxx>
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 11:01 PM Subject: Re: 7.1Hz, how the heck did Tesla succeed?
Original poster: "Gary Peterson" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To the List,
I spent a couple of months at Climax working with Bob during the summer of 1989. He had managed to obtain an Ignitron-based spot welding controller, the switching of which was synchronized with the 60 Hz input frequency. For example, it could be set to turn on the tube once every 8 cycles; 60 / 8 = 7.5 pulses per second. The tube would conduct until the applied voltage passed through 0. Most of the time the thing was attached to the smaller 'Wheaties' coil, but towards the end it was hooked up to the big machine, which was powered by a large diesel generator. Unlike the setup with the smaller coil, in the latter case the power supply frequency could be adjusted by resetting the diesel's governor. I helped Bob set this up, and it was pretty late by the time we were finished with the initial test run. I went home to get some shut eye and when I got back the next day the controller was smoked. I understand there was an ELF receiving station that would monitor the band when 'Climax' was active, but I do not know if they were listening that night. I was not privy to their signal reports anyway.
Regarding the picking up ticks on an AM car radio, I must not have been around at that time. As I recall, the magnifier's e-coil was resonant at just below 100 kHz., and with the tower structure directly connected and raised to the highest position this went down to about 37 kHz, which means an ordinary AM radio would be way off frequency even when set at the low end of the dial.
My time with Bob inspired me to do the basic TC energy transmission / reception experiments on my own. Wish I knew then what I do now about all of this. . . .
One final note, Tesla spoke of two different principles which could, by his way of thinking, be used for the wireless transmission of electrical energy. In the first, call it 'the atmospheric conduction method,' ionizing the upper atmosphere would make it a conductor of electricity. In the second, 'the earth resonance method,' energy would be transmitted by creating "standing waves" in the earth, making it vibrate electrically in the same way as a bell vibrates when it is struck with a hammer. Both depended upon the conduction of electrical current through the earth.
Method #1 involves the use of two large and distant magnifying transmitters as illustrated in the CSN on p.199, fig. 1, along with the improved elevated terminal described in the paper "New Art of Projecting Concentrated Non-Dispersive Energy Through Natural Media," ca. 1937, said to be capable of handling a potential of 100 million volts.
Method #2 might be best implimented with a large machine that is configured as shown in the CSN on p. 191, fig 6. Note that in the patent "Art of Transmitting Electrical Energy Through the Natural Mediums," he said, "the specific plan of producing the stationary waves, herein described, might be departed from. For example, the circuit which impresses the powerful oscillations upon the earth might be connected to the latter at two points "
Regards, Gary Peterson www.teslabooks.com www.teslascience.org
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 12:34 PM Subject: Re: 7.1Hz, how the heck did Tesla succeed?
Original poster: "Mike" <induction@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Hi Bill,
Sorry for the slow delay but Earle was here from MIT and He, Bob and I went out for a meal before doing some lab work. He came just as I was going to reply.
Yes, I told you that the 7.8 or 8 (not 7) Hz signal was heard on (AM) car radios tens of miles away as a tick sound with the impulse. Could have been on the phone.
But you can be sure this was ground wave, these were daytime transmissions; Also it was heard on empty (other than the broad band tick) frequencies, it never would have been heard well on an active frequency.
Also the signal was strong close in but weak with distance, as it should be. All in all, what they really had was a "controlled" static crash, in ham terms.
In trying to ring the cavity, this was the best that could be done in distance and followed all the standard distance loss laws like every other radio transmitter.
Fired up by a known to this list PH.D with lots of fancy, manipulated math, Bob was convinced by him that, first, the x-rays would be so powerful that the path from the rectified coil / x-ray rectifier would ionize easily the air from the tube to the tower and even wire would not be needed, that the DC pulses would arc right in the x-ray paved path. Wrong. Many like situations with same PH.D. Finally after 2 years, Bob took the numbers he was then questioning to several real experts, all of who laughed at the number manipulator's numbers. I am trying to be polite here.
So, while he started out trying to prove out the theory, he ended up actually disproving it, or as close as anybody else has done with like equipment.
Also, there were some questions about the cavity Q, I asked Earle about this in some length. Cavity Q is from 5 to 3 and gets worse with harmonics, is pretty much not a cavity after the 5th harmonic of 7.8 / 8 Hz. A big hairy lightning strike pulse might make it 3 times around, no more than 5.
Mike
----- Original Message ----- From: "Tesla list" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2005 7:06 PM Subject: Re: 7.1Hz, how the heck did Tesla succeed?
Original poster: William Beaty <billb@xxxxxxxxxx>
On Mon, 11 Jul 2005, Tesla list wrote:
> Original poster: "Mike" <mikev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > HI Bill, > Making reply from work machine, Mike here. Golka DID place an
Also, was it you who recently mentioned that Bob G. used his big coil to send out 7Hz pulses, then detected them many tens of miles away? (Perhaps this was a phone conversation.)
> > > Original poster: William Beaty <billb@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > Here's an idea for a dangerous outdoor experiment. > > > > I think Mike <induction@xxxxxxxxxxx> mentioned that Golka tried rectifying > > his big coil, then sending out ~7Hz DC pulses, but wasn't able to > detect > > any large Earth resonance.
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