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Re: Fw: Capacitor Help



Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson" <bartb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Malcolm,

Tesla list wrote:

Original poster: "MalcolmTesla" <tesla@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

BTW - does this mean my coil is running very weak even when I get it tuned?

No.

I thought I saw someone say in the past an NST powered Tesla Coil should be
tapping around turn 9 to 10 on the primary otherwise it's not running very
efficient?  Any truth to that?

Absolutely NOT! No such thing. But, maybe what you read was not interpreted as the writer intended. Regardless of NST, MOT, PIG, PT, or whatever power source is used, the primary frequency is determined by the primary inductance and the tank cap. The tank cap is sufficiently large enough to make the primary "not" sensitive to misc. changes. But the secondary is very sensitive. It is sensitive to external capacitance's which includes toploads, primary's, strike rings, etc. When I modeled your coil via the photos, I modeled the strike ring as well. In Javatc, this would be considered a "grounded" object. I used the disk input to best represent the strike ring (large ID and 1/4" larger OD). This is exactly why there is a check box for grounded or topload connection in that program.

With all the components in position, the secondary or resonator has a resonant frequency. The primary inductance can be adjusted (as well as tank C) to ensure the primary circuit is at the same frequency as the resonator. The number of turns is a matter of geometry and inductance needed for resonance, nothing more. There is no magic turns number for any given transformer type. There is common sense, but no magic values.

What can I look at doing in the future to
bring my turns down to the 9 to 10 range?  Add more strings of caps in
parallel to increase capacitance?

If you need to increase L for resonance, you can keep L as is and lower C to attain the same resonance. As a matter of fact, JAVATC is recently updated with a capacitance reference output (it's within the primary outputs section). If you give Javatc the geometric dimensions of your setup including the number of turns on the primary and simply leave the tank cap value at 0, you can run the program and it will let you know the value of C needed for resonance. You can certainly run the coil at 9 or 10 turns if desired. Just increase C.

Take care,
Bart