Re: 20 joules at 100 bps vs 4 joules at 500 bps

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Original poster: "David Rieben" <drieben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Adam, all,

Well, I certainly can't make any such claim with any of my coils
but I do recall firing my previous big coil (Medusa) with (2) se-
riesed 1.5 kVA 7200 volt PTs and getting 9 to 10 foot power arcs. 
However, like several others have noted, I was certainly consuming 
more than the 3 kVA total nameplate rating of the 2 PTs. Panel
meters were indicating over 8 kVA! So nothing special going on here
and I suspect the same could apply to some of these other remarka-
ble power vs spark length claims.

David Rieben

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Subject: Re: 20 joules at 100 bps vs 4 joules at 500 bps


> Original poster: Yurtle Turtle <yurtle_t@xxxxxxxxx>
> I'm not arguing either side, but have you seen Bert
> Pool's coil:
> http://hot-streamer.com/pool/GARAGE~1.JPG
> It's reputed to have gotten 15' using just a 1.5 kVA
> PT.
> Adam
> --- Tesla list <tesla@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > Original poster: "Dmitry (father dest)"
> > <dest@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >  > Original poster: Bert Hickman
> > <bert.hickman@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> <snip>
> > where did you take the data, that large coils are
> > more efficient that
> > small ones? give me examples of _visible_
> > superiority. i don`t
> > consider that Steve Ward's drsstc have such
> > superiority, because 20%
> > it`s not a lot, it`s not sg coil, and the power is
> > not even more than
> > 5 kw - it`s not so big coil.
> > let`s see if these given _big_ coils _noticeably_
> > more efficient than
> > small ones - i mean by criterion of 1.7 * sqrt(P):
> >
> > 1. Greg Leyh "Electrum"
> >  - NO
> > 2. Tesla Technology Research "Model 13 M Magnifier"
> >  - NO
> > 3. Kevin Eldridge "BIGGG Tesla Coil"
> >  - NO
> > 4. Mark Barton 25kw coil
> >  - NO
> > 5. Ed Wingate 13kw classic coil
> >  - NO
> > 6. Richard Hull "Nemesis"
> >  - NO
> > 7. Richard Hull "Magnifier #11E"
> >  - NO
> >
> > now your turn - give me the list, that shows the
> > opposite.
> >
> > what does it mean - "Smaller coils run out of
> > voltage"? you want to
> > say, if we take 2 coils with the same power, but
> > they would differ in the
> > secondary height and voltage 2 times for example,
> > the taller coil would
> > give a lot long sparks? it`s _very_ simple to verify
> > practically -
> > where is such info?
> >
> > p.s.
> > ever and forever, absolutely best performer, supa
> > dupa mega giga coil:
> > http://www.ttr.com/model9_page2.htm
> > "Longest arc length is 17 feet with 5 Kva A.C.
> > input."
> > Freau number is 2.885!!!
> > 1981 - whoa! so you`re all here nothing more than
> > just a losers!
> > LOL :-)))
> >
> > -----
> > I have run coils up to 20KW in residential
> > neighborhoods.  I have
> > received death threats and have had the police,
> > fire, and department of
> > water and power all show up at the same time. Screw
> > 'em all.  Keep firin'.
> > (c) Mark Barton  29-09-95
> >
> >
> >