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Re: 20 joules at 100 bps vs 4 joules at 500 bps



Original poster: "Malcolm Watts" <m.j.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hi Dmitry,

On 2 Aug 2005, at 13:28, Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: "Dmitry (father dest)" <dest@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Hello Malcolm.
>
> Tl> Original poster: "Malcolm Watts" <m.j.watts@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Tl>  > yes, it`s exactly the same as i wanted to say/ask - sorry for
> my Tl>  > stupid english - Kulon`s law = Coulomb's law :-)
>
> Tl> I'm sure I'm not the only person who's been trying to figure out
> who Tl> "Kulon" is or was!
>
> sorry one more time - i`ve never been learning english - only german
> (looong time ago) :-)
>
> Tl> Here I admit to having trouble understanding exactly what you are
> Tl> saying. It would be pointless for me to comment further if my Tl>
> understanding is incomplete and just a waste of bandwidth. This is a
> Tl> reflection on myself, not you.
>
> ok - no problem at all.
>
> Tl>  > "SECONDARY COIL TOWER STRUCTURE
> Tl>  > Lsec = 0.130H
> Tl>  > Fsec = 37.92kHz (w/7' spherical electrode), 52.60kHz (no
> electrode) Tl>  > Isec (pk) = 61A, with full primary voltage at 38kHz
> Total tower height Tl>  > - 38' 8" Tl>  > Tl>  > 61 a means that bang
> energy = 241.86 joules - real "big bang", i love Tl>  > this guy %-)
> total capacitance of discharger and the coil would be 135 Tl>  > pf,
> then secondary voltage is 1.9 MV.
>
> Tl> Point is, how much shorter can you make it before it does become a
> Tl> problem at 1.9MV (I assume that figure is calculated as though the
> Tl> coil had no losses)?

Principally sparkgap losses. Of course secondary Q is not infinite
either. Then there is the ground.

> if this current peak is just before the discharge (zero voltage), then
> it`s separated from discharge moment (max voltage) only by a quarter
> of period of Fres - what losses are you talking about?
>
> Tl>  > Tl> If you can quantify these things for me I'd be delighted.
> Tl>  > Tl>  > no, not me, at least not before you :-)
>
> Tl> So when are you going to build a coil and contribute to the pool
> of Tl> knowledge?
>
> not earlier than after a year (only _start_ of building), and it would
> be only my first coil. unfortunately i can`t intensify this process -
> nothing depends from me, so for now i`m going to read archives - ALL
> of them :-)

You have a lot of reading ahead of you :)

Malcolm

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