Re: Coil Doesn't Fire

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Original poster: dh-at-synthstuff-dot-com 

Very dumb question but have you actually measured that the resistance of 
these "10 Meg" bleeders are actually 10 Meg?

Dave

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>Original poster: JBarrett-at-trumbullcorp-dot-com
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>Man you guys are a wealth of good information! Thanks!
>When I power up my coil the spark gap immediately begins to fire. It is 
>pretty loud too. I had it set to 1/4" and tried to open it up slightly 
>until it wouldn't fire at all, or the air psi applied would quickly quench 
>the spark. My gap consists of two solid brass dowels mounted in 1 inch 
>thick plastic shaped in the form of an U. A set screw in the plastic 
>allows for adjustment of the two dowels and air is applied through the bottom.
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>The only way I can get any fire at all from the torrid is if I suspend a 
>ground wire to within two inches of the torrid. Even then the corona is 
>very very small.
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>As far as the caps go I must admit ignorance on this. I purchased these 
>caps from Ebay because I thought they were similar to the ones Terry Fritz 
>uses. The funny thing about these caps is nobody seems to know anything 
>about them. Each cap has a 10 meg bleeder resistor .      Ebay Description 
>Below
>Description
> > > >SEALED BAG OF 100 PANASONIC HIGH FREQUENCY
> > > METALLIZED
> > > >POLYPROPYLENE FILM CAPACITORS. PER PANASONIC'S DATA
> > > >SHEET "DESIGNED FOR APPLICATIONS WHERE HIGH
> > > FREQUENCY
> > > >AND HIGH PULSE ARE REQUIRED". .0043 MICROFARAD,
> > > >2500VDC, PANASONIC PART # ECW-H15H432F7
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>.  Maybe this will shed more light on the situation.
>
>Thanks Again for everyone's input.
>Jim Barrett
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>Original poster: Esondrmn-at-aol-dot-com
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>In a message dated 9/15/04 11:52:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>tesla-at-pupman-dot-com writes:
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> >Original poster: JBarrett-at-trumbullcorp-dot-com
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> >Hey I bet no one has had this problem. Just kidding!
> >
> >Transformer:
> >12,000 Volt 30 ma
> >
> >Caps
> >Panasonic ECW-H 0.0043uf +- 3% W.V. 1500 VP-P 2500 VDC with a 1 megaohm
> >bleeder resistor across each cap. 8 in series 12 parallel.
> >
> >Secondary
> >21" of 22 guage wire on a 4 1/2 inch PVC Pipe
> >
> >Primary
> >14 turns of 3/8 copper tubing mounted on 3/4 inch plastic risers set at >30
> >degrees. The inner radius is 5 1/2inches.
> >
> >Torid
> >22 inch major radius of 4 inch flexible dryer duct mounted on aluminum >foil
> >covered 1/4 inch plywood.
> >
> >Spark Gap
> >Air cooled at 25 psi
> >
> >Grounding
> >2- 4 foot ground rods driven into ground and soaked with h2o.
> >
> >I believe my caps are the major source of the prolem however someone
> >pointed out that my transformer is a little small too.
> >Any other thoughts?
> >
> >JIM
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>Jim,
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>What is the coil doing?  Is the primary spark gap firing?  With a low power
>coil like this, you don't need a blown gap.  A static gap made of 1.0"
>copper tube sections about 3.0" long would work fine.  Use about six copper
>tubes with about .020" to .030" gap between each.  Then start by using only
>about four of these gaps to see if you can get the coil running.  It is a
>good idea to use a small fan for cooling on the gap.
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>If the gap doesn't fire, either something is wrong with the transformer,or
>the caps or it is not hooked up correctly.  I am not familiar with the caps
>that you are using.  Are these the good poly/metal foil caps?  The total
>equivalent capacitance is only .0065 ufd.  That is kind of small for a coil
>of this size.  Some quick calculations show the coil should tune as is with
>the primary tap set at about turn 12.5.
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>I see Gary mentioned the bleeder resistors.  That is a good catch.
>
>Ed Sonderman
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