Re: Magnet Wire Sources

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Original poster: "john cooper" <tesla-at-tesla-coil-dot-com> 

That's the name I've tried to forget, Express Wire Service.  Wayne Sercey 
(sp) probably still remembers me yelling at him for sending non-spec 
wire.  They represent a number of manufacturers.  In all fairness to Essex, 
my problems could have been due to some new employees' learning curve with 
the equipment, new equipment, bad coating material, or a batch of dirty or 
slightly oxidized wire that wouldn't adhere the coating properly.  Their 
V.P. of Q.C. was absolutely worthless as I'm still waiting for replacement 
wire some 2 + years later.  My issue was the uneven coating on the 
wire.  I'm sure their hi temp wire, as well as probably being the cheapest 
on the market, doesn't have this problem, that second coat over the crappy 
first coat probably seals it fairly well.  You get what you pay for, I 
still find it puzzling that in a component as critical as the wire is, many 
will go for the absolute cheapest stuff they can get their hands on.  I've 
taken the approach of buying the b
  est components possible, at the end of the day they may actually be the 
cheapest.

One other tip when ordering larger gauge wire, I especially noticed this 
with 12 gauge, if you buy it re-spooled onto a smaller spool, it can be 
almost impossible to tightly wind as the re-spooling process can introduce 
another curvature onto the wire (re-spooled 180 degrees off from 
original?), it refused to lie flat on the coilform and you just couldn't 
pull it tight enough.  Problem solved by buying it on the larger 80 to 90 
lb spools.

This will be my last rant regarding Essex.  Sort of therapeutic in a 
strange way.  I do feel better now.  I'm off to fire up my twin parallel 
magnifier.  Cheers.  John


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Date:  Sat, 29 May 2004 06:35:02 -0600

 >Original poster: "Harold Weiss" <hweiss-at-new.rr-dot-com>
 >
 >Hi All,
 >
 >Dodge-Phelps will probably send you to Express Wire Service.  They did that
 >to me.  They are great to work with.  The salesman I dealt with is also
 >interested in coiling.  Prices are about what I used to pay when Fay had a
 >shop in Oshkosh.  Their website is at www.expresswireservices-dot-com
 >
 >David E Weiss
 >
 > > Original poster: "john cooper" <tesla-at-tesla-coil-dot-com>
 > >
 > > I would avoid Essex wire and, if at all possible, wire that has been
 > > re-spooled (this means buying large spools, 80+ lbs), and would recommend
 > > Dodge-Phelps magwire.  I've gravitated to exclusively using Heavy Duty
 > > Armored Polythermalize magwire, also referred to as high temp wire.  I've
 > > gone the cheap wire route and got sick and tired of saving a few bucks a
 > > pound to later lose hours and hours of labor due to the poor quality of
 > > much of the cheaper wire in the marketplace.  You can contact Dodge-Phelps
 > > directly and they'll hook you up with a distributor.
 > >
 >
 >
 >