Re: About the skin effect in humans

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Original poster: "mercurus2000" <mercurus2000-at-cox-dot-net> 

I'll check it out when I get more money, I'm afraid tho a theoretical
analysis and equations to back it up, can't disprove what tesla saw and
measured, It's like finding a equation that says the sky is red when you can
verify with your own eyes in reality that it's blue. If Tesla saw what he
saw and the streamer lengths he said were actually atleast 100 feet, but
where curiously curved in odd angles. So Tesla recalculated the length to
take in account the curve of the streamers striking the ground. In a
straight line OUT from the third coil they were about 35-50 feet, but taking
in account the curiously curved shape of the streamers hitting the earth,
they were around 124-128 feet. He even mentioned being struck by one of
these streamers when operating the power switch and said they were so feeble
they didn't even hurt. This anyone could verify by reading Tesla's Colorado
Springs notes. I don't believe Tesla's mind was wandering when he wrote his
notes down either. That's just a assumption to back up the numbers you get
in Hull's equations. Perhaps the equations are off slightly? Or maybe
Richard didn't take into account other details of the setup? I'm not trying
to insult Richard's analysis in any way, I just think there might be some
details that were left out. I hope to get my hands on his book, I'm
interested in any materials regarding Tesla's work, but for now I'll take
the word from the person who was actually there than from someone who is
making their own analysis of his notes.
Adam
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Subject: Re: About the skin effect in humans


 > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 >
 >
 > Read Richard Hull's book --- then you will understand.
 >
 > Dr. Resonance
 >
 >  >
 >  > I'm afraid you're wrong about the largest streamers being 35 in length
 > max,
 >  > I have the actual copy of Tesla's colorado springs notes, According to
 >  > Tesla's own words in writing in his notes, he said in one instance with
 > his
 >  > extra coil in action streamers "50" feet in length he recorded, and in
the
 >  > next page after watching the streamers at higher power and noticing
their
 >  > extremely curved path from top to ground the streamers were actually
 > 120-130
 >  > feet in length. If the terminal was raised higher above the ground he
 > would
 >  > have been able to easily get this in a straight discharge to a elevated
 >  > grounded terminal. This was his direct observation and words, not a
 > estimate
 >  > on voltage but actual easy, observable spark length that anyone with a
 > good
 >  > eye which Tesla had could verify.He also goes on to comment that he
could
 >  > get streamers much larger but was afraid of lighting his building on
fire.
 >  > He also goes on to give clues that his magnifier setup wasn't actually
 >  > running at it's most efficient either, because already he was pushing
 >  > burning his building down. You could be skeptical of this, but it
doesn't
 >  > make much since, these are his personal notes, the he didn't mean to
 > reveal
 >  > to anyone. So if he was lying about it, he would be lying to himself,
 > which
 >  > doesn't make any sense at all.
 >  > On another note, Tesla actually used the Wardenclyffe Tower. It was
 > verified
 >  > in the New York Sun reported on July 16, 1903:
 >  >      Natives hereabouts are intensely interested in the nightly
electrical
 >  > display shown from tall tower where Nikola is conducting his exeriments
in
 >  > wireless telegraphy and telephony. For a time, the air was filling with
 >  > blinding streaks of electricity traveling thro the darkness on some
 >  > mysterious errand.
 >  > Tesla gave no explanations.
 >  > These incidents were also verified in the recorded conversations Tesla
had
 >  > with his attorney that I have. Who knows just how large the streamers
or
 >  > better put the artificial lightning being issued from his tower. It's
 > quite
 >  > possible they easily dwarfed Electrum.
 >  > Adam
 >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  > Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:49 PM
 >  > Subject: Re: About the skin effect in humans
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > There were no 125 ft. long sparks in Col. Springs.  The max spark
 > length
 >  > was
 >  >  > approx 35 ft.  John O'Neil's book on Tesla has propagated this rumor
 > far
 >  > too
 >  >  > long.
 >  >  >
 >  >  >   A 125 ft. long spark would have required a power source of over
 >  > 1,000,000
 >  >  > Watts --- something the power generating station could not supply.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > A thorough analysis of Tesla's Col. Springs work was presented by
 > Richard
 >  >  > Hull in his book on the topic.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Unfortunately, Tesla estimated his voltage outputs with spark
 > lengths ---
 >  > a
 >  >  > serious problem that has fooled many an experimenter and even
 > university
 >  >  > professors.  RF spark length applies to available power and
especially
 >  >  > current.  Potential difference, ie, voltage, depends on the energy
in
 > the
 >  >  > system minus losses of the system, and is clearly promulated in the
 >  >  > equation:
 >  >  >
 >  >  >      Esec = k * Epri * SQR Lsec/Lpri
 >  >  >
 >  >  > k is the efficiency factor
 >  >  >
 >  >  > You can apply this equation to any TC system including Tesla's to
 >  > determine
 >  >  > the output potential.  One can operate a TC as in a single pulse
mode
 > with
 >  >  > ignitrons firing every 10 sec.   The spark length to a grounded
 > terminal
 >  > is
 >  >  > measured and the potential is computed and compared to the above
 > equation.
 >  >  >  >From this data one can determine the efficiency of the system.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Ross Engineering has a SF6 potential divider that can also measured
TC
 >  >  > outputs within 1%.  Ross's divider measures potentials from DC to 10
 > MHZ
 >  >  > with accuracy.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > I suggest you obtain a copy of Rich's book --- it's excellent
reading
 > and
 >  >  > good analysis of Tesla's Col. Springs work.
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Dr. Resonance
 >  >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >
 >