Re: Hmmmm...(was CDE 942c20p15k Group buy)

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Original poster: Kreso Bukvic <kreso.bukvic-at-kc.htnet.hr> 

Using DC value stinks. You should use that 500 VAC value, not the 2000 VDC
value... ish

Best Regards

Kreso Bukvic
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Subject: Re: Hmmmm...(was CDE 942c20p15k Group buy)


 > Original poster: Mark Broker <mbroker-at-thegeekgroup-dot-org>
 >
 > Um, you should check your math again ;)  14kVp / 7 caps = 2kV....   also,
 > 14kV ~ 10kV * sqrt(2)  I don't think even the most conservative TC
designer
 > out there would claim to need 25caps with a 10kV NST.  If I have
understood
 > Dr. Resonance's MMC recommendations correctly, he would use an MMC
designed
 > for 25kVDC for a 10kV NST, or only 13 caps in series....
 >
 > CDE 942C caps have been tested to withstand 5kV or more before an internal
 > breakdown.  Self healing allows "many" internal breakdowns.  Terry's tests
 > can be read here:
 > http://www.hot-streamer-dot-com/TeslaCoils/MMCInfo/GeekCaps/GeekCaps.htm
 >
 > Later tests had similar results.
 >
 > Terry, as well as several others with far more experience than I, have
 > "signed off" on the MMC design chart on our site.  And it seems to work as
 > almost no one with an MMC designed by our chart, built by our guide,
hooked
 > up to a competently built TC, and run by a competent operator has had a
 > failure.
 >
 > In the end the MMC debate, like the Linux vs. Windows or Mac vs PC, is
just
 > another dichotomy - some people like them, some people don't.
 >
 > And why do I feel like I'm talking to the wind? :o)  I'm talking, but it
 > seems no one is listening...  or at least the intended party isn't.  Oh
 > well. <insert rolling eyes smilie here>
 >
 > Regards,
 >
 > Mark Broker
 > Chief Engineer, The Geek Group
 >
 >
 > On Mon, 17 May 2004 18:52:40 -0600, Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
 >
 > >Original poster: Kreso Bukvic <kreso.bukvic-at-kc.htnet.hr>
 > >Nothing big, just standard small, medium, big coils. As i stated
 > >"recomended" caps for CD ( by the chart ) is b*****it. They will maybe,
just
 > >maybe last a minute or two. If i would build a MMC for a 10 kV NST i
would
 > >put attleast 25 caps in series. Not 7 like GG recomended.
 > >
 > >7 caps. 3.5 kV ac on 14 kv PEAK AC. ISH.
 > >
 > >Best Regards
 > >
 > >Kreso Bukvic
 > >----- Original Message -----
 > >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > >To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > >Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 4:53 AM
 > >Subject: Re: Hmmmm...(was CDE 942c20p15k Group buy)
 > >
 > >
 > >  > Original poster: "Arpit Thomas" <arpit-at-inzo-dot-org>
 > >  >
 > >  > 500 dollars? what size coil are you building there?
 > >  >
 > >  > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
 > >  >
 > >  > On 15/05/2004 at 9:22 PM Tesla list wrote:
 > >  >
 > >  >  >Original poster: Kreso Bukvic <kreso.bukvic-at-kc.htnet.hr>
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >Well Steve Vance i think you misunderstood me.
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >I have thinked that you are the "good" guy for giving caps without
 > >earning
 > >  >  >money,
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >While some other take a big "provision" for selling caps( when did
the
 > >help
 > >  >  >sombody ?), and i would not surely buy from them. Partyaly because
i
 > >cannot
 > >  >  >afford atleast 500 $ for a MMC. I just buyed 2 maxwells from Terry
(
 > >they
 > >  >  >arrived yesterday) for 100 $. I would like to see what can beat
that.
 > >And
 > >  >  >maxwells are cute:-).
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >Best Regards
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >Kreso Bukvic
 > >  >  >----- Original Message -----
 > >  >  >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > >  >  >To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > >  >  >Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:11 PM
 > >  >  >Subject: Hmmmm...(was CDE 942c20p15k Group buy)
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  >
 > >  >  > > Original poster: "steve" <steve_vance-at-cablelynx-dot-com>
 > >  >  > >
 > >  >  > > Hmmm...
 > >  >  > >
 > >  >  > > Unless I have misunderstood some of the emails it would seem
like I'm
 > >  >  >taking
 > >  >  > > some heat because of the cap group buy offer. As I said in my
last
 > >  >  >post, I
 > >  >  > > wasn't trying to encroach on the GG territory. I just found a
way to
 > >get
 > >  >  >the
 > >  >  > > caps I need at a discount and, make the same offer to others at
the
 > >same
 > >  >  > > time. Heck, everyone likes to save money. In the process it
seems
 > >that I
 > >  >  >may
 > >  >  > > have alienated myself from the TCML and, apparently hurt some
 > >feelings.
 > >  >  >This
 > >  >  > > was not my intention. This is a one shot deal. I can assure
everyone
 > >  >  >that
 > >  >  >I
 > >  >  > > do not want to take over the MMC business. I wasn't implying
that the
 > >GG
 > >  >  >was
 > >  >  > > ripping anybody off or that they weren't a good source to buy
caps
 > >from.
 > >msnip...
 > >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >