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Re: really cool link to so cool effect's
Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>
Hi,
The electrical suit needs to conducts hundreds of amps of RF and possibly
10k's of amps at 60 Hz for those that really screw up. I don't think
costume style chainmail is an option. There are HV electrical suits that
can fend off terrible electrical hazards that would be best. But they cost
$$$$!!
Cheers,
Terry
At 10:27 AM 5/16/2004, you wrote:
>You can get chainmail suits from certain stores selling stuff made to look
>like its from the middle ages. They dont cover full body but cover the chest
>to the elbow and down to the knees. A kid at school wears one regularly, I'd
>assume you can get chainmail hoods also.
>
>---Eric
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
>Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:26 PM
>Subject: Re: really cool link to so cool effect's
>
>
> > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
> >
> >
> > These experiments can be done with safety. We train our TC museum
> > presenters to do it --- and it's done in several museums nationwide up to
>3
> > times daily using our equipment.
> >
> > Now the bad news. A shark diver's metal mesh suit is required which costs
> > around $8,500 new and $3,800 used so it's an expensive procedure. They
>wear
> > the shark suit with metal mesh head cover and metal mesh matching gloves.
> > The demonstrator can wear a suitable non-flammable suit or costume over
>the
> > shark suit but one has to be trained to do the demo in a certain fashion
>to
> > preclude any danger of fire in the costume.
> >
> > Dr. Resonance
> >
> > Resonance Research Corporation
> > E11870 Shadylane Rd.
> > Baraboo WI 53913
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Most people that do the human fireball stunt learned it directly from
> > > others. That way they could learn the many "important tips" like not
> > > setting your hair on fire or not pulling an arc off your nose... As
>far
> > as
> > > I know, Henry Transtrom was the "first" person to do the trick.
>Transtrom
> > > was a electrical engineer and showman with vast knowledge of AC high
> > > voltage electricity. He was well skilled to "try it first". Of
>course,
> > he
> > > was also the "first" to get killed....
> > >
> > > Tesla may have done similar things, but I think Transtrom is the person
> > who
> > > really made the "big show". Of course, Tesla got the crap shocked out
>of
> > > him in 1895 by a 3 foot power arc to his shoulder which almost killed
> > > him. His assistant snapped the power off instantly saving him...
> > >
> > > Forgive if we all get pretty scared when people start asking about
>sitting
> > > on coils or playing with arcs. There is a vast amount of really bad
> > > information out there and the possibility of somebody casually trying
>and
> > > dying is high. The expert's really only claim to fame is that they
>have
> > > not died yet... It is sort of like Robert Knievel teaching somebody
>how
> > to
> > > do motor cycles stunts. He may be the best at it, but...
> > >
> > > Also, today's Tesla coils are significantly more powerful than the
> > > cardboard and plate glass coils of yesterday. A relatively small NST
> > > system can easily rival the usual stunt coils of times gone by. Unlike
>a
> > > kid in the 50's wiring up a coil to make 6 inch arcs. Today, the same
>kid
> > > can push 6 foot arcs!! As we get better at making coils, the dangers
>also
> > > increase... In general, touching arcs in anyway is just not safe at
>all
> > > and we are not real anxious to help people try.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > Terry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:26 PM 5/14/2004, you wrote:
> > > >I'm not trying to call anyone a coward, but the statement that it
>should
> > not
> > > >be done by some1 who has never done it before doesnt make sense.
>Someone
> > did
> > > >it and succeeded first. Whats the whole point of giving advice on how
>to
> > do
> > > >it then telling people to hire someone and just sit by and watch.
> > > >
> > > >---Eric
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > >To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > >Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 1:38 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: really cool link to so cool effect's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Original poster: BunnyKiller <bunikllr-at-bellsouth-dot-net>
> > > > >
> > > > > this one is going to get alot of responces....
> > > > >
> > > > > first off which effect are you refering to?? the upper left
>picture?
> > > > > if thats the one, it is easily done BUT the dangers involved are a
> > MAXIMUM
> > > > > threat. One wrong arc to a grounded object and you are toast....
> > also
> > > >the
> > > > > travel of HF HV thru the body is now being understood a bit better
>and
> > it
> > > > > has been found that it does damage nerve tissue and the flesh where
> > the
> > > > > streamers exit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Some of the set up tips include a very well insulated platform
> > elevated
> > > > > from ground at least 3 times the distance the longest arc can
>travel (
> > > >hard
> > > > > part here is finding a material that has that well of an insulating
> > > > > capacity) , a drop wire from the tesla coil toroid to a near secure
> > ground
> > > > > to limit the streamer length, NO overhead objects within 5 times
>the
> > > > > maximum streamer length ( just in case you stand up while its on) ,
>a
> > set
> > > > > wires from the platform to the actors finger tips to reduce the HF
>HV
> > thru
> > > > > the body but that really doesnt help ( I had set up a plastic
>skeleton
> > on
> > > > > top of my toroid with latex wings on it and ran wires to the wing
> > > > > tips needless to say, the wing tips STILL caught on fire where
>the
> > wire
> > > > > exited), at least 3 manned kill switches constantly being monitored
> > when
> > > > > the coil/actor is activated.
> > > > > The easiest way to do this visual is to hire a proffesional too
> > many
> > > > > variables to go wrong for a "never done that before" type of person
>to
> > > > > attempt...
> > > > >
> > > > > Scot D
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Tesla list wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >Original poster: Jimbo07031982-at-aol-dot-com
> > > > > >This is a web address for a stunt performed with a tesla coil
>haven't
> > > > > >totally figured out how the did but I am trying if any of you can
> > figure
> > > > > >it out let me know please cause I will be working at a haunted
>house
> > this
> > > > > >year and think that it would be a nice effect to have at a safe
> > distance
> > > > > >from the crowd of course..
> > > > > ><http://www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.html>www.hvfx.co.uk/stunts.html it's
> > called
> > > > > >the lightning man stunt and is the only one with video of it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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