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Re: Capacitance of horned torus
Original poster: "Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz" <acmq-at-compuland-dot-com.br>
Tesla list wrote:
>
> Original poster: "Godfrey Loudner" <ggreen-at-gwtc-dot-net>
>
> Hello Antonio
>
> A horned torus is a toroid with no hole. If one
> tries to get the capacitance of a horned toroid
> with toroidal coordinates, the essential calculations
> collapse to 0 = 0. After looking around the internet,
> I came across a list of strange coordinate system.
> Tangent-sphere coordinates looked very interesting.
> After trying the new coordinates, the solution to the
> boundary value problem just did not look right.
> After a long time, I finally realized that I was
> missing a differential boundary condition (good
> at math, but low on physical sense). With the
> additional boundary condition, the rest of the
> calculation was walk in the park. With d for the
> inside diameter of a horned torus, the exact
> expression for the capacitance is below.
>
> Let a(n) be the ascending sequence of the positive zeros
> of the zero order Bessel function J[0,x]. Then C =
>
> 8Pi(permittivity)d times the below
>
> Sum[BesselJ[1,a(n)]^(-1)Integrate[E^(-a(n)Sinh[t]),{t,0,Infinity}],{n,1,Infi
> nity}].
>
> BesselJ[0,x] and BesselJ[1,x] are the zero and first order
> Bessel function respectively.
>
> The problem is computing the infinite series, but its a one
> time calculation. My Mathematica can calculate the zeros of
> Bessel J[0,x] and the integrals to 30 significant figures, but
> I'm still having trouble getting the value. I have contacted
> NASA, and they might run the calculation as a courtesy to my
> school. I don't know yet if they will do the arithmetic. I've
> asked them to calculate Pi times the infinite series to 20
> significant figures.
There is an integral in the capacitance? Maybe you can expand the
integrand
in a series and integrate the series.
In Hick's difficult paper there is a section about a torus without a
hole.
He lists a solution for the potential as a series in Bessel functions.
The formulas for a toroid with hole get lost in this case, but still can
calculate the values, specially the capacitance, with great accuracy.
The best value that I can get with less than 1000 terms in the series
for a
1x0.5 toroid is:
1x0.49986 -> 48.43616275361470810 pF (990 terms)
But the value is not more precise than the smaller diameter:
1x0.49985 -> 48.43598356039409650 pF (957 terms)
1x0.49984 -> 48.43580436507744290 pF (928 terms)
I should check if the recursion for Q is not producing garbage with so
many terms.
The best value appears to be for 1x0.4999, ading 1001 terms:
48.43687950554023140 pF
After this the terms don't decrease, but increase due to the failure
of the recursion for Q.
Using decomposition in rings:
20 rings: 48.4312295893 pF 1x0.49986 ->48.4287234030 pF
50 rings: 48.4382016634 pF 1x0.49986 ->48.4356933175 pF
100 rings: 48.4386131163 pF 1x0.49986 ->48.4361046481 pF
200 rings: 48.4386640438 pF 1x0.49986 ->48.4361555608 pF
So, 48.43867 pF is the best that I can calculate.
Best regards,
Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz