Re: Magnetic quenching.

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Original poster: robert & june heidlebaugh <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com> 

REACTIVE POWER IS NOT WATTAGE. Wattage is resistive power. You can calculate
the reactive power by compensating c or l to nulify the reactive factor. At
resonance your Xl and Xc are the same but oppisite so true power is I^2 R
not reactive. The apparent peek power is Xl^2I AND MAY BE MUCH NORE THAN
TRUE POWER. a 250 watt NST powered TC may have 400 amps and 20000 volts on
the primary. That is 8 meg watt of peek power in the reactive circuit, but
the real power in w/s is within the limits of the NST. Using a resistor in
the ground side of the secondary or in the primary of the NST will be close
to real power if properly compensated with line capacitors.
   Robert   H
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 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:15:32 -0700
 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: RE: Magnetic quenching.
 > Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 12:22:28 -0700
 >
 > Original poster: "John H. Couture" <couturejh-at-mgte-dot-com>
 >
 >
 > Robert -
 >
 > With only a voltmeter and resistor I would expect that you would get wattage
 > readings only when the load is not reactive. If the load has reactive
 > components you would get VA or the same information as when using a
 > voltmeter and ammeter. To find wattage with a reactive load you need a
 > wattmeter. I use a wattmeter, voltmeter and ammeter so I can find the watts,
 > VA, reactive power and the power factor. There has been some talk about
 > using electronic meters but they probably would not last very long in the TC
 > environment.
 >
 > Dave - I have never seen a digital wattmeter. I would be interested in
 > hearing how they work with TCs. Standard analog wattmeters cost only about
 > $15. You can use current shunts for higher wattages.
 >
 > John Couture
 >
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 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
 > Sent: Friday, March 12, 2004 1:24 PM
 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: Re: Magnetic quenching.
 >
 >
 > Original poster: robert & june heidlebaugh <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com>
 >
 > Dave: I have a selection of parallel resistors I use as a watt meter. 0ne is
 > 10 ohm , one is 1 0hm and 0ne is o.1 0hm. I also have a strip of stainless
 > steel with connections to test currents over 100 amps calibrated with taps
 > to match a source. with these and a volt meter I can figure watts.
 > Robert   H
 > P.S. I also have a 5/8  ss302 rod 1 ft long with brass connectors
 > calibrated to 1000 amps in a box somewhere if I find a nead.
 > --
 >
 >
 >> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >> Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 11:28:39 -0700
 >> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >> Subject: RE: Magnetic quenching.
 >> Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 12:24:17 -0700
 >>
 >> Original poster: "David Thomson" <dave-at-volantis-dot-org>
 >>
 >> Hi Gerry,
 >>
 >> I don't have a watt meter at this time so I can only infer the input
 > power
 >> from the transformer rating.  I use a 15kV, 30mA NST so my input power
 > with
 >> the variac open is about 450 watt.
 >>
 >> A significant cause for the cool running of my coil is due to the
 > secondary
 >> construction technique.  After studying Tesla's Wardencliffe patents and
 >> previous patents concerning secondary coil shapes, I deduced that the
 >> Wardencliffe secondary is actually a combination flat spiral and tall
 >> solenoid coil.  The introduction of the flat spiral in the secondary
 > appears
 >> to alter the electromagnetic orientation of the electrons and allow the
 >> coils, capacitors and spark gap to run a lot cooler.
 >>
 >> With Terry Fritz's guidance, I have just finished setting up a new
 > testing
 >> laboratory for investigating the properties of this type of coil design.
 > If
 >> my research funding continues as in the past few months, I'll buy a new
 >> digital watt meter to interface with the DAQ system.
 >>
 >> Dave
 >>
 >>> -----Original Message-----
 >>> From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
 >>> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2004 8:30 AM
 >>> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >>> Subject: Re: Magnetic quenching.
 >>>
 >>>
 >>> Original poster: "Gerry Reynolds" <gerryreynolds-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >>>
 >>> Hi Dave,
 >>>
 >>> What power levels are you using?
 >>>
 >>> Gerry R
 >>>
 >>>> I've used magnetic spark quenching for years with no loss of
 >>> magnetism in
 >>>> the magnets.  In fact, there is no heating of the magnets.  My
 >>> spark gap
 >>> and
 >>>> TC run so cool as a unit I can operate it for an hour with no
 >>> appreciable
 >>>> heating on the transformer, gap, or coils.  The spark gap itself makes
 >>> very
 >>>> little noise compared to my copper tube assembly spark gap.
 >>>>
 >>>> Dave
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>
 >>
 >
 >