Re: Image legality: you've got to be kidding !!??

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Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com> 


If information is intended to not be copied notice of copyright or some
other legal notice has to be given with each post.  Otherwise it's
considered general public knowledge and free for the taking.

Plagiarism isn't pretty, but it's not illegal unless legal notice was given
with the written data, it's not illegal.  Unethical perhaps, but not
illegal.

Dr. Resonance

 >
 > You absolutely HAVE TO BE KIDDING!!??
 >
 > Such righteous indignation about "intellectual and professional ethics"??
 > "Plagiarism"?  Please give us a break!
 >
 > (People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ....)
 >
 > "Bucket capacitors" in many forms and permutations were developed by many
 > experimenters years before you first pressed your tongue against a 9 volt
 > battery. Salt water filled, aluminum-foil lined, wine-bottle clustered,
 > bucket-within-a-bucket, etc, etc were all done by others long ago.
 >
 > Just because the Geek Group site specifies the use of Corona beer bottles
 > add no new technology, breaks no new ground, provides no improvement over
 > past implementations, or introduces anything at all of value: its all been
 > done before.
 >
 > Reading Kreso Bukvik's posts to the TCML over the past few months, it's
 > obvious he's a young experimenter who has developed a strong interest in
 > Tesla coils, and is doing his best to learn the technology and make
sparks.
 > Despite the language barrier, he obviously reads and understands what's
 > being discussed in this forum, and is trying his best to scrape together
 > materials to build coils under rather difficult conditions in his native
 > Croatia. Given Nikola Tesla's Croatian origins, I'd think you'd be bending
 > over backwards to assist him rather than pompously threatening some
 > "international litigation".
 >
 > As far as I can tell, the ideas, concepts, materials, implementations,
 > configurations, test data, etc, etc, discussed on this list are all
provided
 > freely for the free, universal, unencumbered benefit of all.
 >
 > If you have developed something so new, so revolutionary, so far beyond
the
 > current state-of-the-art, then patent it and freely pursue "plagiarists"
and
 > others who seek to infringe your intellectual property.
 >
 > Otherwise .....
 >
 > Scott Hanson
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:52 PM
 > Subject: Image legality
 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: "Chris Boden" <cboden-at-thegeekgroup-dot-org>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Hi All,
 >  >      As many of you know, the Geek Group avidly supports the
dissemination
 > of
 >  > scientific and technical knowledge by all legitimate means. All
pictures,
 >  > texts, and diagrams on our web site are published with the permission
of
 > the
 >  > author(s) and credits are posted to the extent possible.  We usually
have
 > no
 >  > objections to anyone copying pictures and quoting text as long as
sources
 >  > are cited and appropriate credit given. However, copying from our site
 >  > without permission, removing credit lines, and publishing materials on
 >  > another website as one's own, is intellectually and professionally
 > unethical
 >  > and, in the case of copyrighted materials, also illegal, even
 >  > internationally.
 >  >
 >  > Because pursuing remedy claims internationally through the legal system
is
 >  > very slow, painful, and costly, we are asking the members of TCML, the
 >  > largest peer-review TC group, to consider this several-year-old
 > illustration
 >  > from our website:
 >  >    http://www.thegeekgroup-dot-org/projects/bucketcap/
 >  >
 >  > and compare it to this recent website:
 >  > http://free-kc.htnet.hr/Kreso-Bukvic/Izrada%20VN%20kondezatora.htm
 >  >
 >  >     and use whatever peer pressure they may be able to exert to remedy
 > this
 >  > situation without our having to seek legal recourse.
 >  >      While we realize that sometimes a copy of a copy of a copy of
 > something
 >  > may inadvertently be displayed without permission/credits However
direct
 >  > plagiarism with deliberate editing out of names/logos is difficult to
see
 > as
 >  > accidental.
 >  >
 >  > Sincerely,
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > The Geek Group Board
 >  >