Re: Image legality: you've got to be kidding !!??

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Original poster: "Richard Modistach" <hambone-at-dodo-dot-com.au> 

if you go back and read the origional posts properly
it's not the idea but the theft(and blatent manipulation)
of the image thats the problem.
i agree with chris 100%

regards
richard
aus


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 1:50 PM
Subject: Image legality: you've got to be kidding !!??


 > Original poster: "Scott Hanson" <huil888-at-surfside-dot-net>
 >
 > Chris -
 >
 > You absolutely HAVE TO BE KIDDING!!??
 >
 > Such righteous indignation about "intellectual and professional ethics"??
 > "Plagiarism"?  Please give us a break!
 >
 > (People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones ....)
 >
 > "Bucket capacitors" in many forms and permutations were developed by many
 > experimenters years before you first pressed your tongue against a 9 volt
 > battery. Salt water filled, aluminum-foil lined, wine-bottle clustered,
 > bucket-within-a-bucket, etc, etc were all done by others long ago.
 >
 > Just because the Geek Group site specifies the use of Corona beer bottles
 > add no new technology, breaks no new ground, provides no improvement over
 > past implementations, or introduces anything at all of value: its all been
 > done before.
 >
 > Reading Kreso Bukvik's posts to the TCML over the past few months, it's
 > obvious he's a young experimenter who has developed a strong interest in
 > Tesla coils, and is doing his best to learn the technology and make
sparks.
 > Despite the language barrier, he obviously reads and understands what's
 > being discussed in this forum, and is trying his best to scrape together
 > materials to build coils under rather difficult conditions in his native
 > Croatia. Given Nikola Tesla's Croatian origins, I'd think you'd be bending
 > over backwards to assist him rather than pompously threatening some
 > "international litigation".
 >
 > As far as I can tell, the ideas, concepts, materials, implementations,
 > configurations, test data, etc, etc, discussed on this list are all
provided
 > freely for the free, universal, unencumbered benefit of all.
 >
 > If you have developed something so new, so revolutionary, so far beyond
the
 > current state-of-the-art, then patent it and freely pursue "plagiarists"
and
 > others who seek to infringe your intellectual property.
 >
 > Otherwise .....
 >
 > Scott Hanson
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 5:52 PM
 > Subject: Image legality
 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: "Chris Boden" <cboden-at-thegeekgroup-dot-org>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > Hi All,
 >  >      As many of you know, the Geek Group avidly supports the
dissemination
 > of
 >  > scientific and technical knowledge by all legitimate means. All
pictures,
 >  > texts, and diagrams on our web site are published with the permission
of
 > the
 >  > author(s) and credits are posted to the extent possible.  We usually
have
 > no
 >  > objections to anyone copying pictures and quoting text as long as
sources
 >  > are cited and appropriate credit given. However, copying from our site
 >  > without permission, removing credit lines, and publishing materials on
 >  > another website as one's own, is intellectually and professionally
 > unethical
 >  > and, in the case of copyrighted materials, also illegal, even
 >  > internationally.
 >  >
 >  > Because pursuing remedy claims internationally through the legal system
is
 >  > very slow, painful, and costly, we are asking the members of TCML, the
 >  > largest peer-review TC group, to consider this several-year-old
 > illustration
 >  > from our website:
 >  >    http://www.thegeekgroup-dot-org/projects/bucketcap/
 >  >
 >  > and compare it to this recent website:
 >  > http://free-kc.htnet.hr/Kreso-Bukvic/Izrada%20VN%20kondezatora.htm
 >  >
 >  >     and use whatever peer pressure they may be able to exert to remedy
 > this
 >  > situation without our having to seek legal recourse.
 >  >      While we realize that sometimes a copy of a copy of a copy of
 > something
 >  > may inadvertently be displayed without permission/credits However
direct
 >  > plagiarism with deliberate editing out of names/logos is difficult to
see
 > as
 >  > accidental.
 >  >
 >  > Sincerely,
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > The Geek Group Board
 >  >
 >  >