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Re: Breakdown voltage in HV transmission lines (was: this was..)
Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
Thanks for the data Antonio. Very interesting.
Dr. Resonance
>
> Tesla list wrote:
> >
> > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
> >
> > Ed:
> >
> > I have always wondered how these long distance EHV lines avoid
producing
> > excessive corona.
> >
> > The cables do not appear to be very large in diameter --- perhaps an
inch or
> > two at best. With that small radius and diameter, why don't they emit
> > tremendous corona?
> >
> > With corona inception potential around 67 kV per inch (30 kV/cm) they
should
> > be glowing a lot with their small diameters. Especially in rainy
weather.
>
> The fundamental reason is because the wires are essentially straight.
> Cylindric conductors donīt follow the same rule of spheres, where 30 kV
> per cm of radius is enough to create corona.
>
> If you try to calculate the electric field at the surface of a long
> wire that is at a given potential, the result is that that if the wire
> has infinite length and is really straight, the breakdown voltage is
> infinite. But real wires are always somewhat curved by gravity.
>
> I can use the field of a toroid implemented in the Inca program to have
> an idea of what happens. Consider a ring of wire, with wire diameter of
> 1 cm and varying major diameter. I list below the breakdown voltages
> calculated by the program:
>
> Major diameter:
> 1 cm: 15.0 kV (a ball with 1 cm of diameter)
> 2 cm: 22.6 kV
> 4 cm: 32.9 kV
> 10 cm: 50.0 kV
> 1 m: 95.2 kV
> 10 m: 133.8 kV
> 100 m: 169.8 kV
> 1000 m: 203.9 kV
>
> The breakdown goes slowly to infinity as the radius of curvature
> (half of the major diameter of the toroid) of the wire decreases.
>
> A bunch of wires results in a larger effective diameter of the wire,
> and in greater breakdown voltage. I can still use the program to
> evaluate this case.
> Consider 4 wires with 1 cm of diameter disposed as a square with
> distance between the centers of the wires of 4 cm.
> A ring of this "wire" with distance from the center to the center
> of the inner wires of 10 cm is described in the program as:
>
> * Toroidal conductor with 4 wires
> C1 wire 50 0.1 0.02 0.005 0 360
> C2 wire 50 0.1 -0.02 0.005 0 360
> C3 wire 50 0.14 0.02 0.005 0 360
> C4 wire 50 0.14 -0.02 0.005 0 360
>
> The breakdown voltage for this case results as 112.4 kV
> For larger rings (also changing the distance from the center to the
> center of the inner wires, that is approximately the radius of
> curvature of the composite wire):
> 0.5 m: 181 kV (compare with 95.2 kV with 1 wire)
> 5 m: 288 kV (compare with 133.8 kV)
> 50 m: 385 kV (compare with 169.8 kV)
> 500 m: 478 kV (compare with 203.9 kV)
>
> So, it's not difficult to keep transmission lines at very high
> potentials
> without excessive corona at the wires. The most problematic areas are
> the middle points between towers, where the radius of curvature is
> maximum, and the suspension devices in the towers, where it's common to
> see corona rings.
>
> Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz
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