Re: Cap-driven x-former?

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Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <Electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net> 

Well I'd think it was ferro-resonant, because he says the output is horrible
without the capacitor.  Google could tell more then I could,  as I don't
know much about the ferro-resonant circuit.

Regards - Jim Mitchell
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Subject: Re: Cap-driven x-former?


 > Original poster: "Jim Lux" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >
 > It's not ferro-resonant.. just an ordinary transformer with a lot of
leakage
 > reactance to limit the current in a gas-discharge tube application.
 >
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 > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 7:21 PM
 > Subject: Re: Cap-driven x-former?
 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <Electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net>
 >  >
 >  > Hi,
 >  >
 >  > I believe that capacitor is part of the Ferro-Resonant circuit commonly
 > used
 >  > in iron cored transformers.  Google can tell you more then I can.
 >  >
 >  > Regards - Jim Mitchell
 >  > ----- Original Message -----
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 >  > Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2004 7:49 PM
 >  > Subject: Cap-driven x-former?
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  > Original poster: FIFTYGUY-at-aol-dot-com
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Folks-
 >  >  >
 >  >  >      I bought a HV transformer many years ago (from Mouser,
probably)
 > that
 >  > has
 >  >  > a unique feature that I have never figured out.
 >  >  >      It's a 5KV, 300mA secondary, 110V primary. Single phase, no
 > windings
 >  >  > connected to ground at all. From my recent TC research, I learned
that
 >  > this
 >  >  > X-former also has magnetic shunts (which have since resisted all my
 >  >  > attempts to
 >  >  > remove them without destroying the unit). Makes a pretty impressive
 >  > Jacob's
 >  >  > Ladder
 >  >  > driver with the high, but self-limited current.
 >  >  >      What has puzzled me is why it has a third winding that requires
 > the
 >  > use
 >  >  > of a cap to make the transformer run. The third winding is center
 > tapped,
 >  > and
 >  >  > it's inside (wound closer to the core) of the secondary. The center
tap
 > is
 >  > not
 >  >  > used, but the seller's ad mentioned the cap requirement, and they
 > included
 >  > a
 >  >  > cap and a connection drawing.
 >  >  >      With the cap, it's works great. Without, the HV leads barely
put
 > out
 >  > any
 >  >  > spark. How does this thing work, and can this "extra winding with
cap"
 >  >  > principle be applied to other existing HV transformers as well?
 >  >  >      More specs: Seller advertised it as out of a copier power
supply.
 >  > Inked
 >  >  > on the side of the unit is "General Electric part # 9T68Y5022G10".
Made
 >  > for
 >  >  > Eastman Kodak (with an Eastman Kodak part #).
 >  >  >      Cap is a 10uF 1000VDC oil-filled type.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > -Phil LaBudde
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
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