Re: Quarter Wavelength Frequency

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Original poster: Shaun Epp <scepp-at-shaw.ca> 

David,

Where did you get the idea that photons are flowing???  There are no photons
flowing!!  Just electrons!  The only photons around a tesla coil is that
which you can see given off from the sparks and streamers, visible light.

The flow across the length of the coil is magnetic flux and it will induce
current into the coil.  A large amount of induced current close to the base,
because that is where the primary coil is.  A smaller amount of current will
be induced into the upper portion of the secondary coil because less
magnetic flux will cut through it there.

Shaun Epp

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Subject: RE: Quarter Wavelength Frequency


 > Original poster: "David Thomson" <dwt-at-volantis-dot-org>
 >
 > Hi Terry,
 >
 > You raise an excellent point concerning the magnetic transfer of current
 > through a coil.  So are you saying the current is flowing through the coil
 > as both electrons AND photons, with the electrons flowing the length of
the
 > wire and the photons flowing the length of the coil?
 >
 > If this is the case, how do we quantify the split traffic?  Are there
 > equations we can use to determine how much work is being performed by the
 > electrons and how much is being performed by the photons?
 >
 > Is there a certain ratio of traffic along each route that is better than
 > other ratios?
 >
 > It would appear that a coil is then quantified simultaneously as a radio
 > frequency and as an AC current, with different quantities of work being
 > performed by each.  The total work would be the total work of the AC plus
 > the total work of the RF.
 >
 > Dave
 >
 > -----Original Message-----
 > From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
 > Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 11:11 PM
 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: Re: Quarter Wavelength Frequency
 >
 >
 > Original poster: Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-twfpowerelectronics-dot-com>
 >
 > Hi,
 >
 > To make a very long story short....
 >
 > Consider how long it takes for current at the base of a coil to reach to
 > top of the coil...
 >
 > If it travels the length of the wire (say 1000 feet) then the wire "length
 > idea" holds.
 >
 > But here is the catch that changes everything!!!
 >
 > The coil's turns are all magnetically linked to each other!!
 >
 > So the current at the top of the coil doe not have to wait for the
 > electrons to travel the length of the wire, but only the length of the
 > coil!!  The effects of primary base current are magnetically linked to the
 > top of the coil through a distance of only say 3 feet...  The coil is not
a
 > 1000 foot long antenna.  It is a close wound inductor with the all the
 > turns closely magnetically linked....
 >
 > That simply is the "killer" the of wire length/quarter wave stuff...
 >
 > Listen to Paul here!!!  He has studied this stuff to extreme detail!!!!
 >
 > http://www.abelian.demon.co.uk/tssp/
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 >           Terry
 >
 > At 02:40 PM 7/9/2004, you wrote:
 >  >Jared E Dwarshuis wrote:
 >  >
 >  > > we believe that an envelope exists between L.C.
 >  > > resonance and wire length resonance.
 >  >
 >  >This seems to be where you're going wrong in your
 >  >interpretation of your coil's behaviour.  LC resonance
 >  >anmsnip...