Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!UPDATE!!!!!!

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Original poster: "Nightmare" <nightmare-at-bak.rr-dot-com> 

ok, i closed the gap closer and now i get the gap to fire! but no streamers,
when i touch a rod to the torioid or breakout wire i get a like .5mm spark.
What now?

Ravi
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Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!


 > Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net>
 >
 > IMHO and experience 2 liter plastic soda bottles will burn through even
with
 > a small power supply.  You could try glass bottles...
 >
 > Regards - Jim Mitchell
 > ----- Original Message -----
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 > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 7:47 PM
 > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: brent meyer <res095fx-at-verizon-dot-net>
 >  >
 >  > I think he said soda bottles wrapped in aluminum...  You probably have
a
 >  > short, your gap is too wide, or you have an unknown leakage somewhere.
 > How
 >  > loudly is the transformer humming?  They usually don't do that unless
they
 >  > are under a load of some sort, so I'd venture to say you have a short
 >  > somewhere.  Just remember to keep your left hand in your pocket while
 >  > troubleshooting, this is the time when you are most likely to get bit,
 > when
 >  > things aren't working.  Don't let the pressure of the deadline allow
you
 > to
 >  > become sloppy.  You have plenty of time to find the problem.
 >  >
 >  > Look at the component parts of the system when troubleshooting.  Do not
 >  > assume anything works.  Look over each of the components separately,
and
 >  > test them in whatever fashion possible.  You have already done so with
the
 >  > NST, progress now to your spark gap.  Separate it from the rest of the
 >  > system and see if you get a discharge with just the transformer
connected.
 >  > Make sure the cap isn't connected when you do this, and remember 7KV
won't
 >  > jump more than about a 1/4 inch gap...
 >  >
 >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 15:50:22 -0700
 >  >  > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >  >  > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
 >  >  > Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >  >  > Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2004 16:02:09 -0700
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Original poster: "Jim Mitchell" <electrontube-at-sbcglobal-dot-net>
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Soda bottles?!? Aluminum?  If so that will not work you need glass
 > bottles.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Regards - Jim Mitchell
 >  >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  >  > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  > To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 1:28 PM
 >  >  > Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >> Original poster: "Aaron Aab" <striker754-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >> I'm guessing you dont ahve enough capacitance or spark gap is too
big
 > for
 >  >  >> the power level.
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >> I'm not sure how much uF each of those bottles is worth, maybe
0.01?
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >> Try moving the spark gap closer together, the transformer you have
is
 >  >  > fairly
 >  >  >> small.
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >> Aaron
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >> ----- Original Message -----
 >  >  >> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >> To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >  >  >> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 8:02 AM
 >  >  >> Subject: Re: 1st Tesla Coil WONT LIGHT HELP PLEASE!
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >>> Original poster: "Nightmare" <nightmare-at-bak.rr-dot-com>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>> Hi, this is ravi, i just made my first TC and it wont light, i
wired
 >  >  >>> everything up right but it still wont light! It was grounded and
 >  >  >>> everything. I plug it in and nothing happens. I tested the
 > transformer
 >  >  > by
 >  >  >>> plugging it in and the terminals arc to each other like a jacobs
 > ladder
 >  >  >> and
 >  >  >>> it works, but nothing happens when i plug it in! All i hear is the
 >  >  > humming
 >  >  >>> of the transformer Please help. I  ve experimented and done all i
can
 > .
 >  >  > I
 >  >  >>> need this done by next Friday for science fair so please help. The
 >  >  > spark
 >  >  >>> gap doesnt fire either, ive tried 2 different transformers and the
 > same
 >  >  >>> thing. Please email me off group for picctures since it doesnt
 > support
 >  >  >>> attatchments. Here are my coil specs:
 >  >  >>> Secondary: 22inx3in 18in windings
 >  >  >>> Primary: ~7-8 turns of 1/4in copper tubing with various adjusted
taps
 >  >  > with
 >  >  >>> clip.
 >  >  >>> Caps: 4 soda bottles covered in foil wrapped in elec. tape. filled
 > with
 >  >  >>> salt water. all connected with ring terminals
 >  >  >>> Spark gap: 2 1.25in dia copper pipes 3.25in long
 >  >  >>> Transformer: 1st is 7.5kV 30mA 60Hz 2nd one i tried is 4.0-4.5kV
30mA
 >  >  >> 50/60Hz
 >  >  >>> Toroid, 3in air cond duct with 2 pie plates like this >--< in
center
 > to
 >  >  >>> hold in place 9 in inner dia 15 in outer dia.
 >  >  >>> Everything is conected with ring terminals and 600V hardware wire,
 > and
 >  >  >>> gator clips for primary.
 >  >  >>> I used the schematics on deepfriedneon-dot-com exept with diff. gap
and
 >  >  > bottle
 >  >  >>> caps instead of MMC's. Please help me I've done all i can. Again,
if
 >  >  > you
 >  >  >>> need pics please email me seperately and i will send them. Thank A
 >  >  > LOT!!!!
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>> A desperate 8th Grader,
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>> Ravi
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>> Thanks A LOT for the help.            Thanks A LOT again
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>> Ravi
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>>
 >  >  >>
 >  >  >>
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