Re: Residual charge left on caps

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Original poster: "Crow Leader" <tesla-at-lists.symmetric-dot-net> 

Things called electrets (just as in electret condenser microphone) have a
permanent charge in them. They're pretty much the electrical equivalent to a
magnet.

KEN
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Subject: Re: Residual charge left on caps


 > Original poster: "Hydrogen18" <hydrogen18-at-hydrogen18-dot-com>
 >
 > Is it possible to store energy in this way for long periods of time?
 > Assuming the the dielectric is kept well insulated from any potentional
 > conductors?
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 >
 >
 >  > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > A classic capacitor physics experiment.  Charge a Leyden jar.  Remove
the
 >  > plates completely and short them both together and to ground.
Reassemble
 >  > the jar and it delivers it's normal spark.  Charge is stored in the
 >  > dielectric.  The effect of the plates are completely eliminated in this
 >  > experiment.
 >  >
 >  > Dr. Resonance
 >  >
 >  > Resonance Research Corporation
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 >  > Subject: Re: Residual charge left on caps
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  > Original poster: "Dr. Resonance" <resonance-at-jvlnet-dot-com>
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > When a capacitor is charged the electron orbit radii are stretched.
 > When
 >  >  > discharged most of the orbital radii return to normal but there is
 > usually
 >  >  > 5-10% that don't get back in the discharge phase.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > These "stretched orbit" radical electrons slow return to their
normal
 >  > orbit,
 >  >  > and while doing so, create electrical charges on the plates of the
 >  >  > capacitor.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > They are not extra electrons but merely a few billion that don't
 >  > immediately
 >  >  > return to their normal orbits.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Dr. Resonance
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Resonance Research Corporation
 >  >  > E11870 Shadylane Rd.
 >  >  > Baraboo   WI   53913
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > At first discharge the residual voltage between the plates is
 > reduced
 >  > to
 >  >  >  > zero  BUT the dielectric still has strain buried in it, as that
 > stain
 >  >  > moves
 >  >  >  > out it generates charges on the plates,
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > Where these come from ie where does the negative plate get its
extra
 >  >  >  > electrons from I'm not sure but the idea of the dielectric
storing
 >  > energy
 >  >  >  > seems appealing
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >
 >
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