Re: SRSG or ARSG

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Original poster: "steve" <steve_vance-at-cablelynx-dot-com> 

Thanks everyone. I am going to be using a PDT.
I'm glad to hear that a ASRG won't hurt it. My thinking was to run
about 400-450bps to save money on caps. Also heard that
I could get longer streamers with a fast break rate!

About using it on an NST.....I built the rf filter from Greg Hunters
website. http://hot-streamer-dot-com/greg/filter.htm
  Wouldn't this along with about a 400bps and a safety gap protect my NST?
Or should I stick with my sucker gap?
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Subject: RE: SRSG or ARSG


 > Original poster: "Luke" <Bluu-at-cox-dot-net>
 >
 > May ask why exactly an ASRG is bad for an NST?
 >
 > Luke Galyan
 > Bluu-at-cox-dot-net
 >
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 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: Re: SRSG or ARSG
 >
 > Original poster: dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com
 >
 >
 > Although a non-synch rotary would be a bad thing for a NST powered tesla
 > coil, non-synch (asynchronous ARSG) spark gap will
 > provide great results when used with PT or PDT powered tesla coils.  In
 > fact, I get much better and more interesting results when using
 > an ARSG over  SRSG with my coils due the ability of being able to vary
 > the
 > output etc...
 >
 > Ed Wingate, Terry Blake, myself, and others have built ARSG powered
 > coils
 > which are highly successful and big output coils.
 > Especially Ed Wingate's magnifier which can easily throw some very big
 > arcs
 > indeed!!!!
 >
 > However, on Ed Wingate's magnifier, he using a combination ARSG / Series
 > gap
 > which is also fan cooled providing very fast quenching for the
 > magnifier.
 > Its definitely the most impressive and elaborate spark gap system I've
 > seen!!!
 >
 > Dan
 >
 >
 >
 >   > Steve,
 >   >
 >   > A non sync rotary, which is based on an AC motor is not good, it will
 >   > deliver streamers that change in size in a surging manner, and
 > provoke
 >   > safety gap firings inbetween.
 >   >
 >   > A non sync gap based on a DC motor is great, because it is possible
 > to
 > make
 >   > interesting sounds from the coil, it`s like reving a combustion
 > engine. It
 >   > is hard to make it perform with relatively big caps, but with
 > relatively
 >   > small caps and accordingly high breakrates, the output of such a coil
 > can
 >   > get competitive.
 >   >
 >   > Personally, I like the syncronous gap most, because of it`s rock
 > solid
 >   > sound. And because it is possible to adjust the electrodes so that
 > the cap
 >   > reaches the same voltage each time it is discharged, even though the
 >   > breakrate is higher than double the line frequency.
 >   >
 >   > There is no doubt in my mind that the ultimate is a non sync gap in a
 > DC
 >   > sharging system, but I have no practical experience with that.
 >   >
 >   > Cheers, Finn Hammer
 >   >
 >   > http://home5.inet.tele.dk/f-hammer/tesla/museum/setup/setup.htm
 >   >
 >   > Tesla list wrote:
 >   > >Original poster: "steve" <steve_vance-at-cablelynx-dot-com>
 >   > >Could someone explain to me what the advantage of using a SRSG is?
 >   > >If you go over 120bps aren't you defeating the purpose. Seems to me
 > that
 >   > >  a ARSG would be easier to build, more versatile, and safe as long
 > as it
 >   > >  was used with a safety gap.
 >   > >OR... I could be wrong. I'm new to coiling so take it easy on me.
 >   > >Steve Vance
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