RE: Static Gap question.

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Original poster: "Luke" <Bluu-at-cox-dot-net> 

Understood on the edges being rounded and all.
But if copper pipes were used in parallel to each other don’t you still
have edges that maynot be rounded enough.  Like the ends of the pipe?

Also I know that:
"For a gap of reasonable dimensions you usually require a
large surface and some forced cooling. Spark gaps get really hot."

But other than the cooling aspect of it are there ANY OTHER benefits to
using the larger surface area.  Or is the cooling the ONLY reason the
larger surface area is desired?



Thanx for the input.


Luke Galyan
Bluu-at-cox-dot-net

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Subject: Re: Static Gap question.

Original poster: "Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz" <acmq-at-compuland-dot-com.br>

Tesla list wrote:

  > Original poster: "Luke" <Bluu-at-cox-dot-net>

  > Question 1.
  > If the gap is cooled off sufficiently and the gap is quenched well
say by
  > large amounts of air is there any other benefit to using a larger
surface
  > area for the spark gap?

For a gap of reasonable dimensions you usually require a
large surface and some forced cooling. Spark gaps get really hot.

  > And question 2.
  > The JavaTC program estimation of the arc distance in relation to
potential
  > is based on the surfaces of the spark gap being curved like as in
large
  > dia. balls or pipes in parallel.
  > This assumes the distance between electrodes is not greater than the
  > diameter of the electrodes.

If the 30 kV/cm figure is used, the diameter of the electrodes shall be
much greater than their separation.
Two 1 cm balls separated by 1 cm break down at about 17 kV, if very
perfect and cold.

  > Would the same approximate distances be obtained for said voltage if
flat
  > electrodes were used parallel to one another?  Say like two 1” dia.
discs
  > separated by ½”.  Would that have a breakdown voltage close to the
  > breakdown voltage of two 1” dia. copper pipes in parallel to one
another?

Only if the edges are sufficiently rounded. With sharp edges, corona
there begins at about 300 V, and long sparks at about 10 kV/cm, or less
once the edges get hot.

Antonio Carlos M. de Queiroz