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Re: Racing sparks
Original poster: "Harold Weiss" <hweiss-at-new.rr-dot-com>
Hi All,
Sounds similar to Tesla's description of how his ball lightning was
triggered. A stray high frequency causing a the secondary to dump it's
energy rapidly, and forming a ball from the side of the coil.
David E Weiss
>
> Hi Bart,
> I've been waiting for a post like this to come along as
> I've had an idea sparked by a TV program I watched on "freak waves"
> in the ocean. Freak waves, to briefly explain, are waves which,
> almost beyond the realms of possibility, surge up out of nowhere to
> heights reaching 30 metres or so. They were long held to be a
> mariner's tall tale by skeptics until some recent occurrences, one of
> which was captured by camera on an oil rig in the North Sea and
> others which seriously damaged and nearly sank different ships in
> different parts of the major oceans. Please bear with me:
>
> On 4 Feb 2004, at 8:15, Tesla list wrote:
>
> > Original poster: Bart Anderson <classi6-at-classictesla-dot-com>
> >
> > Hi Tom, Gerry,
> >
> > I don't completely understand each mechanism either, but I view the
> > racing sparks incident due a couple situations:
> >
> > 1) The voltage stress somewhere along the length of the coil is high
> > enough to breakout before the charge on the top terminal is capable.
> >
> > 2) There must be node(s) or areas along the length of the secondary
> > which are pronounced enough to cause the initial breakout a direct
> > path down the secondary. And with that, the further the arc creeps
> > down the secondary, the greater the difference in potential becomes.
> > This why I think most racing sparks will typically run the full the
> > length of the coil. However, I don't think this will occur each and
> > everytime. The arc may make an abrubt turn outward part way down.
> >
> > I believe "any situation" which might cause stresses in unwanted areas
> > of the coil are capable of producing the same affect. Tuning,
> > coupling, and topload affects on current distribution along the length
> > of the coil are three areas of adjustment to reduce these stresses in
> > both 1 and 2 above.
> >
> > Someone else may have a better theory.
> > Take care,
> > Bart
>
> To continue; the theory used to model ocean waves (I personally think
> of it as a predicting rather than modelling theory) was used as a
> design guideline for hull design. Based on what I saw, it was not
> much more than a Gaussian curve which predicted that a freak wave
> such as I've described might occur once in 10,000 years. The fact
> that it was recently discovered that they happen far more often led
> to an in-depth investigation. It was found that the right combination
> of ocean currents coupled with opposing waves and seabed topology
> near the bottom of the African continent led to such waves occurring.
> However, this did not explain what was later seen by satellite
> imaging; that such waves occurred far more frequently than predicted
> in mid-ocean.
>
> A physicist-engineer who was familiar with quantum mechanics got
> on the case and discovered that the profile of a freak wave matched
> waves thought to be a theoretical curiosity which sprung from
> Schroedinger's Wave Equation. The one tall wave basically "sucked"
> the energy from waves either side it seemed. The program concluded
> with the postulation that there co-exists two basic wave patterns in
> the ocean - the ones normally seen and whose height vs frequency of
> occurence is predicted by the classic bell-curve, and another whose
> profile is predicted by the quantum-mechanical wave equation.
>
> How this *might* relate to Tesla Coils: Wave phenomena are present in
> Tesla Coils, of that there is no doubt. They occupy physical space in
> a medium which places a speed limit on the transmission of a
> disturbance. It occurred to me that it might be possible that racing
> sparks are in fact a form of freak wave whose occurrence is induced
> by presenting the necessary conditions for it to occur. Should that
> be the case, it should be possible to predictably produce designs
> whose energy is sufficient to allow this to happen vs designs running
> at the same energy levels which do not allow it to occur (physical
> parameters for the most part being equal). There are both
> similarities and differences between the ocean as a transmission
> medium and a resonator as a transmission medium. Just for starters,
> both are high Q. The TC resonator is much more bounded than the ocean
> - a major difference. However, that is at its fundamental and closely
> related wavelengths, not something considerably higher.
>
> Enough handwaving - I have to ask the math experts, what do you
> think? Might there be something in this? I admit to being lazy in not
> pursuing this myself.
>
> Malcolm
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