Re: Laws and permits

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Original poster: "Virtualgod" <mike.marcum-at-zoomtown-dot-com> 

what about the states next door?

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Subject: Re: Laws and permits


 > Original poster: Jim Lux <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>
 >
 > At 08:21 AM 4/16/2004 -0600, Tesla list wrote:
 > >Original poster: "Harold Weiss" <hweiss-at-new.rr-dot-com>
 > >Hi Nathan,
 > >
 > >As long as it is not used as a weapon the BATF doesn't care.  The same
goes
 > >for spud guns and dry ice bombs.  Any other mixture in the bombs is
 > >considered explosive, and is regulated.  The NASA boys at Huntsville
enjoy
 > >recycling bottles that way.
 > >
 > >David E Weiss
 >
 >
 > The BATF may not care, but in California they sure do... check out PC
12301(6)
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > CALIFORNIA CODES
 > PENAL CODE
 > SECTION 12301-12316
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > 12301.  (a) The term "destructive device," as used
 > in this chapter,
 > shall include any of the following weapons:
 >     (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary
 > material
 > or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that
 > which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except
 > tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns.
 >     (2) Any bomb, grenade, explosive missile, or similar
 > device or any
 > launching device therefor.
 >     (3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which
 > fires
 > fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun
 > (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a
 > "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section
 > 179.11 of
 > Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition
 > (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon.
 > For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means
 > any
 > cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered
 > incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured
 > in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary
 > channels of commercial trade.  The term "antique rifle"
 > means a
 > firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm"
 > in
 > Section 179.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.
 >     (4) Any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar
 > device of
 > a diameter greater than 0.60 inch, or any launching device
 > therefor,
 > and any rocket, rocket-propelled projectile, or similar device
 > containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other
 > chemical
 > substance, other than the propellant for such device, except such
 > devices as are designed primarily for emergency or distress signaling
 > purposes.
 >     (5) Any breakable container which contains a flammable
 > liquid with
 > a flashpoint of 150 degrees Fahrenheit or less and has a wick or
 > similar device capable of being ignited, other than a device
 > which is
 > commercially manufactured primarily for the purpose of illumination.
 >
 >     (6) Any sealed device containing dry ice (CO2) or other
 > chemically
 > reactive substances assembled for the purpose of causing an
 > explosion by a chemical reaction.
 >     (7) Any device designed or intended to emit or propel a
 > burning
 > stream of combustible or flammable liquid a distance of 10 feet or
 > more.
 >     (b) The term "explosive," as used in this chapter,
 > shall mean any
 > explosive defined in Section 12000 of the Health and Safety Code.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > > > Original poster: Nathan Savir <thoobik-at-yahoo-dot-com>
 > > >
 > > > then making a rail gun is probably a bad idea ....
 > > >> seriously though, thanks for the advice.
 > > >
 > > > Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
 > > > Original poster: Jim Lux
 > > >
 > > > I note that things like potato cannons are often classed as "homemade
 > > > destructive devices", the possession of which are a felony in
 > > > California. You can probably fight it out in court, but it's going to
be
 > > > expensive.
 > > >
 > > >
 > > >
 >
 >