Re: WATER CAPACITOR EXPERIMENT!!!!

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Original poster: robert & june heidlebaugh <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com> 

Lau Gary: I have used water in high voltage tests and found the following to
be true.  1. At the point where the air and water meet carrosion eats away
the conductor, so I coat that point with wax or plastic. 2. when the
conductor corrodes the test fails because the water in not pure. Distilled
water and deionised water are not the same. Distilled water will corrode
everything but nickel even glass and stainless steel. De ionised water or
distilled water stabelized with pure limestone will not corrode as badly,
but are not as good an insulator. 3. Titanium made a better electrode than
platinum and costs much less. I get pure welding wire rods from any major
welding supplier  for less than from a  chemical provider.--
      Robert   H


 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:33:16 -0700
 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: RE: WATER CAPACITOR EXPERIMENT!!!!
 > Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:39:23 -0700
 >
 > Original poster: "Lau, Gary" <gary.lau-at-hp-dot-com>
 >
 > OK, I won't tell you that it won't work, but you may want to try a quick
 > experiment to test the basic concept, before investing a great deal of
 > time and materials.
 >
 > Try coating a pair of bare wires with the acrylic, connecting them to
 > your NST HV bushings, and dipping them into the deionized water.  If
 > nothing happens, you're golden.  But if you see an arc to the water as
 > you lower the wires into it, you may need to rethink the basic concept.
 >
 > Regards, Gary Lau
 > MA, USA
 >
 >> I have spent the last two days reading virtually every post on water
 >> capacitors... Here's a summary of what I understood:
 >>
 >> 1) Everybody tries to prove that their view is correct and are not
 > willing
 >> to experiment
 >> 2) Everybody who is willing to experiment is put down by those who feel
 >
 >> that they are saying the ultimate truth
 >> 3) They will work
 >> 4) They won't work <--that's a big one
 >> 5) They are too good to be true
 >>
 >> Sorry for the harsh attitude...*takes deep breath* Okay, the reason
 > that I
 >> am so frustrated is that I feel that those who want to should be
 >> encouraged instead of being told its an impossibility...anywho, I am
 > going
 >> to attempt building a water cap using distilled water run through an
 >> industrial De-Ionizer... For the actual plates I am going to take an
 >> antenna tuning capacitor of about 200pf in the air at about 1kv and
 > take
 >> it apart. I will give each plate a good coating of acrylic to avoid the
 >
 >> contamination that everybody is talking about. I will rebuild it
 > carefully
 >> in order to make sure that i do not scratch my acrylic coating, For the
 >
 >> containment box I am building is out of .5" thick acrylic (I know its
 >> overkill but that's beside the point). Its dimensions are 4"x4"x12" to
 >> give the vari-cap .5" clearance off each side. The cap will be
 > supported
 >> by .25" thick acrylic sheet inside the case. The tuning knob will come
 > out
 >> of a hole bored to the right size of the shaft with Teflon tape to give
 > it
 >> a good seal. If anybody thinks this is a bad idea please give me advice
 >
 >> but keep in mind that even if I am told that its all going to blow up
 > in
 >> my face (which it might if it overheats), I am still insisting on
 > building
 >> it. It can't hurt...it'll make others safe by keeping me busy.
 >>
 >> This is actually my first posting on pupman. I have always come here
 > for
 >> info in my free time to see others technique to coil building but
 >> nevertheless, it can never hurt to try something new.
 >>
 >> My site is http://eahab1.port5-dot-com and It hasn't been updated for a
 > while
 >> but it shows the first two coils I built. Ohh, and as a side notes, on
 > my
 >> Model 2, I used 24awg as a primary and worked without a problem. For
 > the
 >> secondary, It was wound with 30awg wire-wrap. On one of my newer coils
 >> (not on the site), I wound the secondary with 37awg wire (2"x12") and
 > runs
 >> with 460 watt NST and shoots out 13" streamers and has already about 5
 >> hours of runtime on it usually running in 15 min. intervals and still
 >> works like a charm.
 >>
 >> with much hope,
 >> Eahab El Naga
 >
 >