Re: Water Pig

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Original poster: "robert & june heidlebaugh by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com>

Rolyon:  Carbon fiber has a problem of its own. While it is a conductor it
is also a fiber that acts as a wick that conducts ionised metal from one
point to another  just like an electroforesis membrane at very low
electrical potential when ever it is used in the presents of water. This
makes carbon fiber an ideal contact to connect living cells to monotoring
test equipment  in research projects, but as a capacitor it would have many
problems if water  were used as a dialectric.
--       Robert  H


 > From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 11:12:43 -0600
 > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 > Subject: Re: Water Pig
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 >
 > Original poster: "Crow Leader by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 > <tesla-at-lists.symmetric-dot-net>
 >
 > A high dielectric constant is truly meaningless by itself. There are
 > ceramics with k of tens of thousands. We don't have miracle super caps
 > because of it.
 >
 > KEN
 >
 >
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 > Subject: Re: Water Pig
 >
 >
 >> Original poster: "Jolyon Vater Cox by way of Terry Fritz
 > <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jolyon-at-vatercox.freeserve.co.uk>
 >>
 >> Does anyone know if carbon fibre or conductive polymer contaminates
 >> deionised water?
 >> If it does not, what reason would there be not to capitalise on the high
 >> dielectric constant of water in building a compact,high capacitance
 >> water-dielectric capacitor with plates of woven carbon fibre cloth or
 >> polymer other than the resistivity or cost of the conductive materials?
 >>
 >> Jolyon
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 >> To: <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 2:27 PM
 >> Subject: Re: Water Pig
 >>
 >>
 >>> Original poster: "marc metlicka by way of Terry Fritz
 >> <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <mystuffs-at-orwell-dot-net>
 >>>
 >>> water and copper don't stay separated very long. cupric sulfate is a
 >>> very strong conductor.
 >>> Marc
 >>>
 >>> Tesla list wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>> Original poster: "Jeremy Scott by way of Terry Fritz
 >>> <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <supertux1-at-yahoo-dot-com>
 >>>>
 >>>> What about tungsten electrodes, sealed in with pure
 >>>> distilled water via plastic tubing?
 >>>>
 >>>> Say all this in a plasic t joint with water
 >>>> being pumped one way, and electrodes facing
 >>>> the other way.
 >>>>
 >>>> --- Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
 >>>>> Original poster: "robert & june heidlebaugh by way
 >>>>> of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 >>>>> <rheidlebaugh-at-desertgate-dot-com>
 >>>>>
 >>>>> Ken, The problem is not " can water be used as a
 >>>>> dielectric'  The problem
 >>>>> is water is a universal solvent that will collect
 >>>>> ions from almost
 >>>>> everything and will then not be pure.Pure nickel and
 >>>>> titanium are among the
 >>>>> few electrodes that can be used. Stainless steel
 >>>>> will disolve quickley and
 >>>>> make THE WATER CONDUCTIVE. Pt and Pd have there own
 >>>>> problems.
 >>>>> Robert   H
 >>>>> --
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>>> From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
 >>>>>> Date: Thu, 01 May 2003 22:51:02 -0600
 >>>>>> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >>>>>> Subject: Re: Water Pig
 >>>>>> Resent-From: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
 >>>>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 22:53:05 -0600
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Original poster: "Jeremy Scott by way of Terry
 >>>>> Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>"
 >>>>>> <supertux1-at-yahoo-dot-com>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Hey now,
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>> Water can be a good dielectric :) 1MV/cm
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>
 >>>>
 > http://www.eece.unm.edu/cp3/Publications/Shu_Xiao-Repetition_Rate.pdf
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>> If I'm not mistaken, the T&R Electric water
 >>>>> cooled
 >>>>>>> transformer somebody got
 >>>>>>> was "recondtioned and certified" too. I've got a
 >>>>>>> printer, I'll certify
 >>>>>>> whatever you want.
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>> KEN
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>
 >>>>>
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