Re: Adding Secondary High Voltage Mail List group ? ? ?

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Original poster: "Chip Atkinson by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <chip-at-pupman-dot-com>

Hi Terry.   I am biased towards plain email lists myself.  As the tesla
list is not a money making venture, we don't have to do ads, which is
nice.

At least in the early days I think the moderation was what allowed the
tesla list to succeed where other tesla lists have failed.  There was a
USATesla list that got so side tracked with bogus postings that people
just gave up on it.

I wrote back to Steve Roys about me hosting an HV list where he would be
the moderator.  Haven't heard back from him yet, but I think we could make
a go of it.

As soon as I get a moderator for the HV list, I'll set it up.  I'd kind of
like to let Steve have first crack at it and then take the next volunteer.
That would keep Terry free to do the tesla list, since it's a pretty big
job just to read the postings.

Perhaps the old web site needs a radical overhaul anyway...(sometime)

Chip

On Sat, 3 May 2003, Terry Fritz wrote:

 > Hi Chip,
 >
 > There is a high voltage newsgroup alt.energy.high-voltage :
 >
 > 
http://groups.google-dot-com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=alt.energy.high-voltage
 >
 > Looks sort of slow.  News groups are always hard to keep up with.  There is
 > also alt.mad.science but it hardly every gets posts.  It is just too 
obscure.
 >
 > There is a high voltage yahoo group with only 24 members:
 > http://groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/high_voltage/
 >
 > The Yahoo lifters group has 1334 members and seems to go very well:
 > http://groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/Lifters/
 >
 > The rail guns and all other stuff group seems to be picking up:
 > http://groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/highvoltageiongunscoils/
 >
 > Harvey's Teslafy group also seems to be going well:
 > http://groups.yahoo-dot-com/group/teslafy/
 >
 > Yahoo is slow and has all those adds that really turns people (me at least)
 > off.
 >
 > Of course, there are three Tesla coil mailing lists.  TCML (us), Tesla-2
 > (Mike's beginners list), and GTL (the German speaking list).
 >
 > As far as I can tell,  Steve Roys HV-list homepage is down and I find very
 > little on it.
 >
 > So there is no nice mailing list HV-group.  Most people can't stand the
 > unmoderated Usenet and the rest can't stand waiting for Yahoo's adds to pop
 > up...  There may be a very nice niche open here!!   We often get interest
 > in Marx generators (I usually let that go here too), Van de Graaff,
 > coin/can crushers....  If things are not too busy we can tolerate a little
 > on these, they mostly are off-topic here.  I do think there is enough
 > interest in the other things to justify a second HV-list.
 >
 > This list does not need much moderation since 98% of post go through now
 > days.  Mostly technical issues like filtering mistaken posts and telling
 > people how to subcribe/unsubscribe and all.  All of the "bad people" have
 > been driven off ;-))  But I do think a mailing list does need a
 > moderator.  Maybe more of a caretaker just to answer questions and just
 > generally "be there" in case.  Of course, once it gets 1000's of people on
 > it there will be times when real moderation is needed, but that should not
 > be a problem at first.
 >
 > My moderation these days is mostly stripping HTML, long sigs, and those
 > "stop spam now by buying MSN as your ISP and using Windows bug free server
 > 2003 version 1.0..."  And the Yahoo e-mail "ADons"...  A dirty grimy task,
 > but somebody hasta do it ;-))
 >
 > I could moderate it unless someone else want's too.  I have no need to do
 > two groups ;-))  If anyone else wants to do it they should definitely do
 > it.  Of course, I know how and all the "stuff" to get it started too.
 >
 > But I see Erik Shultz just volunteered :-))  Personally I would not do
 > lasers since there are many other laser groups but I would do EMP if they
 > were practical and not goffy stuff...  But not my problem :o))))
 >
 > So I would say go ahead and set it up Chip and we'll see how it goes.  I
 > think it will go well!!
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 >          Terry
 >
 >
 > At 10:09 AM 5/3/2003 -0600, you wrote:
 > >I could set something like this up if there is enough interest.  There are
 > >some logistics to consider: Moderation and if so, who? enough interest to
 > >keep the traffic high enough?
 > >"Charter" -- all non-TC traffic?
 > >Just some thoughts.  From my end, it's not too big a deal.
 > >At least a while back, Steve Roys had an HV list, but I don't know if it's
 > >still around.
 > >
 > >Chip
 > >
 > >On Sat, 3 May 2003, Mccauley, Daniel H wrote:
 > >
 > > > Terry, Chip, Group,
 > > >
 > > > I was wondering what the possibility was or if there is any interest in
 > > > adding another discussion category.
 > > >
 > > > For example:
 > > >
 > > > 1.  Tesla Coil Maillist (what we currently have)
 > > > 2.  High Voltage Maillist (all general high voltage topics and non-tesla
 > > > coil hv applications)
 > > >
 > > > We have an absolutely incredible member / knowledge base on the pupman
 > > group
 > > > and it seems a shame to limit this knowledge
 > > > base only to the primary discussion of tesla coils.  Most if not all the
 > > > members of the group have additional high voltage
 > > > interests that extend beyond tesla coils.   These other high voltage 
topics
 > > > may include high voltage power supplies / generators, pulse networks,
 > > > general high voltage design and theory, etc...
 > > >
 > > > One recent example, is the discussions regarding Marx 
generators.  Although
 > > > this topic has not been officially declared
 > > > offtopic and "killed" yet, it really has nothing to do with tesla 
coils and
 > > > is probably eventually destined to be "killed"
 > > > by one of the moderators.  However, there is much interest in this
 > > topic and
 > > > would be an excellent topic to keep alive in a second high voltage 
mailing
 > > > list.  Members who don't really care about these offtopics can 
simply not
 > > > subscribe to this second list or vice versa.
 > > >
 > > > >From what i've seen so far, the list has been gradually evolving ever
 > > since
 > > > its conception years ago.  Perhaps this is
 > > > just the next step!
 > > >
 > > > Let me know what you think!
 > > >
 > > > The Captain
 > > >
 > > >
 >