Re: Adding Secondary High Voltage Mail List group ? ? ?

["Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>]

Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <teslalist-at-qwest-dot-net>" <dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>


Yeah, I guess it does get a bit complicated on what to allow and not allow
as far as posts.

Perhaps things all related to the generation of high voltage and arcs.  For
example, it wouldn't concentrate on the end results of these items such as
lasers, emp pulse generators, etc...  But would
deal with the actual circuits employed to generate the high voltage.

Such as:

HV Power supplies
HV Multipliers (Marx, Cockroft-Walton, derivatives, etc...)
Anything that can produce arcs (except electrostatic machines)

An idea would be to make the Tesla group a bit more restrictive to dealing
with solely tesla coils, and other stuff would automatically go onto the
second HV group.

Be good for at least a temporary experiment to see how it works.

Dan




 > Hi Mike,
 >
 > At 07:49 PM 5/3/2003 +0100, you wrote:
 > >...........
 > >
 > >I think that the subject of Marx gens in particular, and  spark-oriented
 > >HV topics in general is
 > >sufficiently 'close' to Tesla Coiling that a large proportion of the
Tesla
 > >list would have some
 > >interest/expertise, and is likely to generate sufficiently few postings
that
 > >a) most Tesla list members would not object to such topics, and
 > >b) would not generate sufficient traffic on their own to justify a
 > >seperate list - lists with little
 > >traffic tend to die out without a 'critical mass' of postings.
 >
 > There is no doubt that this list's topic is "Tesla coils".  If the number
 > of posts per day is high (like 50+) there is no room for anything else.
If
 > things are slow, I may let other closely related things sneak through.
The
 > recent Marx generator thread was one.  Things like Marx generators, HV
 > stacks, and other hobby high voltage generators are "close enough" to
sneak
 > in from time to time if things are slow.  They are also electrical
machines
 > that may have many questions as to their construction/operation that "we"
 > will know.  I usually do not allow Van de Graaff generators and other
 > electrostatic machines since they are well discussed elsewhere and are
more
 > physical devices rather than electrical (plug into the wall machines).
 >
 > Other HV-lists have failed.  Other Tesla coil lists have failed...  I
think
 > we just have to try and see...  Personally, I think a well moderated
 > non-commercial (no darn pop up ads) mailing list would do well.  Mailing
 > lists also have the advantage that they keep your attention since they
clog
 > your mail box all the time.  Only those truly interested stay...
 >
 >
 > >I think it may be useful to consider widening  the scope of this list a
 > >little to cover subjects
 > >like this.
 > >Although HV in general is too wide a topic, perhaps something like 'Tesla
 > >coils (and other HV
 > >devices whose primary purpose is to make sparks)' would cover the
majority
 > >of topics likely to be of
 > >interest to the majority of the list, without widening it too far into
 > >areas like lifters etc. which
 > >have their own active lists.
 >
 > I think it comes down to a posts per day thing.  If someone signs onto the
 > Tesla coil list and gets 50 Tesla coil posts a day they are happy.  If
they
 > get 50 Tesla coil posts and 25 "other", I think they will be unhappy.  Of
 > course, one could easily sign onto both or one of the lists too as they
wish.
 >
 > I like Chip's idea that the other list could handle "everything else".  I
 > have to turn many cool things down just because they are too far off the
 > topic of Tesla coils...  The new list could decide if certain things
should
 > not be discussed.  I assume (and I am sure Chip will specify) that goofy
 > things like Tunguska explosions, free energy, anti-gravity, etc. would be
 > not allowed.  That moderator would have to probably struggle for awhile
 > defining the bondarys and all...  But I would think that any HV thing one
 > could, and hopefully is, "building" would be on topic "except" for Tesla
 > coils :o))  After moderating 54537 posts myself to be sure that they are
 > about Tesla coils, I am not sure I could handle being sure a post is NOT
 > about Tesla coils :o)))  I am happy that it looks like there will be
others
 > that moderate it ;-))  I certainly "could" do it, but a fresh moderator
for
 > a fresh group would truly gets things going fresh and new!!
 >
 > One advantage our list has is that it IS totally controlled.  All posts
are
 > pre-moderated and nobody tells Chip and me what to do.  So if things start
 > to go bad, we CAN fix it.  Usenet has no control so 80++% of some groups
 > are trash...  Some on-line groups are post moderated or "sort of
moderated"
 > so a lot gets through and a lot of discussion is spent trying to fix
 > things...  No one really has the authority to "stop it" when it needs to
be
 > stopped.  I think these sorts of problems are what really killed many of
 > the groups.
 >
 > I think a well run High Voltage Mailing List (maybe HVML?) would do very
 > well.  It may have a little rough time getting started and making it clear
 > that one's anti-gravity flying saucer positronic anti-matter idea isn't
 > going to get posted (unless they have it running and can fly it over to be
 > sure :o)).  But once it gets going and people see that it is not just
 > another "whacko" group, I think they will come.  One thing us and the
 > Lifters group have going for us is that we both deal in real equipment and
 > real machines.  So things can be judged on how they "really" work and the
 > truth is in real results.  That cuts out a lot of "just talk".  I would
 > hope that the new group would be focused mostly on actually building
 > practical HV machines just to keep things in true focus.
 >
 > I want to sign up!!!
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 >          Terry
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >