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Re: hi im bill and a nfg. just know learning



Original poster: "Alexander Rice by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <alex-at-rices.myip-dot-org>

10/05/2002 02:03:03, "Tesla list" 
<tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:

Hi Bill,
	30kv-at-500mA = 15,000w, which is (just) do-
able (if 240v in this is a wall draw of 62A), 
100kv-at-500mA is 50,000w which is proabaly not 
parctical st this is a wall draw of 210A. 
Either way your dimmer will NOT work. If you 
are running from a 120v outlet as in the US 
then that will be 124 A and 420A respecively! 
You might consider posting a photo of the 
transformer so as we can identify what type it 
is likely to be.

Regards

Alex

>Tesla list wrote:
>> 
>> Original poster: "Bill by way of Terry 
Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
><liam-at-neteze-dot-com>
>> 
>> I'm trying too build a power supply that 
delivers 30 to 100 kv at 500 MA.
>> And 70 hertz. AC.   I recently acquired an 
ac transformer at a junk  yard
>> the sucker weighs about a hundred pounds 
and is ac  I was wondering if I I
>> hook a 120 v..ac outlet plug to a standard  
600 amp dimmer switch , to the
>> transformer  how can I measure the kv 
without a high voltage tester  ??
>> does anyone know any tricks   ???   thanks  
bill
>> 
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From:   Tesla list 
[mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
>> Sent:   Thursday, May 09, 2002 10:35 AM
>> To:     tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>> Subject:        Re: Miss Electra on 
Ripley's
>> 
>> Original poster: "Brent Turner by way of 
Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
>> <bturner-at-apc-dot-net>
>> 
>> Mark (and all)
>> 
>> I feel I need to comment at this point.
>> 
>> The current during the "initial" phase of 
the gag is only 22 amps. That
>> is BEFORE the gap starts to fire. At full 
power, my coil system draws
>> OVER 40 amps. My coil isn't tuned for 
lengthy sparks, thought it DOES
>> produce discharge over 6 FEET in length. 
It's designed for higher
>> current in the actual DISCHARGE. Hence, 
there is enough RF current in
>> the output to bring a 60-watt incandescent 
lamp to near FULL brilliance.
>> 
>> Assistants are on plastic crates. This is 
to RF-isolate them from
>> ground. As I mentioned, there is an INTENSE 
low-frequency component in
>> the discharge. Enough to cause involuntary 
muscle contraction or worse.
>> 
>> Wrong on your assumption that the light 
bulb was a resistive load to
>> drain any remaining charge. What you saw in 
the final footage was
>> Danielle holding the incandescent bulb 
holder, and was the tail part of
>> dropped footage with her lighting the bulb 
to full brilliance. This was
>> a result of the editing done by the 
producers.
>> 
>> If you doubt this, I would like to invite 
you out here to Southern
>> California and allow you to feel what I am 
talking about. If you really
>> want to feel what a 3.5 KVA coil output 
TRULY feels like without
>> protection, it's your life...
>> 
>> We are serious about NOT trying this at 
home. Looks easy. Actually it
>> is. BUT WE HAVE SPENT YEARS KNOWING WHAT 
*NOT* TO DO. Driving a car is
>> easy and simple. But I doubt that it felt 
that way when you were first
>> learning. The responsibility to operate the 
vehicle in a SAFE manner.
>> 
>> I agree that the media folks hyped a bunch 
of stuff. I still feel
>> uncomfortable with that. (But that's the 
way it goes with them. There is
>> an intense need there for more and more and 
more. Or at least until
>> someone is seriously injured.)
>> 
>> - Brent Turner
>> 
>> Tesla list wrote:
>> >
>> > Original poster: "Mark W. Stolz by way of 
Terry Fritz
>> <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" 
<mark_w_stolz-at-hotmail-dot-com>
>> >
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I taped it since I wasn't home.  Upon 
watching the tape with my wife, she
>> > got bored saying "I've seen better than 
this in the garage." :-)
>> >
>> > I watched the tape several time in 
varying degrees of slow motion and
>> > wondered if anyone noticed:
>> >
>> > 1. The metal gloves she was wearing had 
wires running up her arms taped at
>> > the shoulders and then down her back.
>> > 2. The platform that she sat on was not 
the TC but an insulated platform
>> > connected to the TC.  She was sitting on 
a plate on that platform.
>> > 3. The current draw at the initial spark 
throwing gag was ~22 amps, so
>> this
>> > wasn't a big coil.
>> > 4. During the light bulb gag the 
assistants were standing on boxes, I
>> assume
>> > to be insulated since occasional sparks 
hit their hands.
>> > 5. The rod she was holding at the end 
with a light bulb in it which
>> > apparently was a resistive load to drain 
any remaining charge.
>> >
>> > Remember, don't try this at home Brent 
and Danielle are highly paid...er I
>> > mean trained professionals.
>> >
>> > Mark Stolz
>> > Houston, TX
>> >
>
>
>
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