Re: Copyright! RE: TO ALL PLEASE READ

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Original poster: "Jim Lux by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>

One should distinguish between what's legal (labelling, registration, etc.)
, what's ethical (taking someone else's work and benefitting, if only by
saving you the work), and what's worth prosecuting (use for
remuneration)....

The entire entertainment industry (a veritable snakepit of vipers with
regards to intellectual property)  is full of people who are keenly aware of
the distinctions between the above...

I, personally, think that one should strive for what's ethical....

Don't steal, give credit where due, and respect the creator of the work.


Oddly, last week, I just had a discussion with my eight year old daughter
about what plagiarism is, because they are discussing it in class (a good
thing...)


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:53 AM
Subject: RE: Copyright! RE: TO ALL PLEASE READ


> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<jim-at-jlproduction-dot-com>
>
> Actually I believe the reverse is true. Having a go around with this
> issue at one point, and ending up with lawyers involved, it is my
> understanding that the burden is on the creator/owner to post it as
> protected. Further, the owner/creator must then prove the material was
> used with intent to gain in some way. Just using it (an image for
> example) as desktop wallpaper for example is not enough. This is similar
> to the deer hunting issue wherein the land owner must post it AND post
> it legally for law enforcement to uphold the trespass issue. If not it's
> wide open to public use, at least in my state anyway.
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:13 PM
> To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject: Copyright! RE: TO ALL PLEASE READ
>
> Original poster: "Steve Greenfield by way of Terry Fritz
> <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <alienrelics-at-yahoo-dot-com>
>
> Big NO! This is not true. By the Berne Convention, everything is
> copyright when you create it. Has nothing to do with whether or not
> you make money with it. Damages (if any) may be assigned according
> to how much you may have made -and- according to how much money the
> copyright owner may have lost as a result of your copying. But even
> if no money is involved, copyright is retained by the creator and
> if they don't explicitly say OK, it ain't OK.
>
> You should -ask- in each case. Don't just assume. As has been
> pointed out, what about those who may not be on the list, or too
> busy to read every message, or who skip over messages with poor
> subject lines like "TO ALL PLEASE READ"? Looks like half the spam I
> get, I almost deleted without reading.
>
> Look here for some info on copyrights in laymans terms:
> http://www.templetons-dot-com/brad/copymyths.html
>
> Internet is not public domain!
>
> Steve Greenfield
> Polymorph Digital Photography
>
> --- Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
> > Original poster: "Loudner, Godfrey by way of Terry Fritz
> > <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <gloudner-at-SINTE.EDU>
> >
> > Hi Tom
> >
> > Any pictures on the internet are in the public domain. You can
> > copy freely
> > all the pictures you need for your school project as long as you
> > do not
> > profit financially from the pictures. However it is a courtesy to
> > the owers
> > of the sites to give them credit for their pictures. I can't see
> > anyone
> > objecting to nonprofit educational use of pictures taken from the
> > internet.
> >
> > Godfrey Loudner
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tesla list [SMTP:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:42 PM
> > > To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > > Subject: Re: TO ALL PLEASE READ
> > >
> > > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> > > <Kidd6488-at-aol-dot-com>
> > >
> > > In a message dated 3/22/02 2:56:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > > writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > If anyone has any objection to me using their content
> > > > on my site, please e-mail me off this list.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > --Tom
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think it might be better to ask:
> > > "If anyone will LET me use their pictures please email off
> > list"
> > >
> > > Just a tip...
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > Jonathon Reinhart
> > > hot-streamer-dot-com/jonathon
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>