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RE: Copyright! RE: TO ALL PLEASE READ



Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jim-at-jlproduction-dot-com>

Actually I believe the reverse is true. Having a go around with this
issue at one point, and ending up with lawyers involved, it is my
understanding that the burden is on the creator/owner to post it as
protected. Further, the owner/creator must then prove the material was
used with intent to gain in some way. Just using it (an image for
example) as desktop wallpaper for example is not enough. This is similar
to the deer hunting issue wherein the land owner must post it AND post
it legally for law enforcement to uphold the trespass issue. If not it's
wide open to public use, at least in my state anyway.
Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla list [mailto:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 10:13 PM
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
Subject: Copyright! RE: TO ALL PLEASE READ

Original poster: "Steve Greenfield by way of Terry Fritz
<twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <alienrelics-at-yahoo-dot-com>

Big NO! This is not true. By the Berne Convention, everything is
copyright when you create it. Has nothing to do with whether or not
you make money with it. Damages (if any) may be assigned according
to how much you may have made -and- according to how much money the
copyright owner may have lost as a result of your copying. But even
if no money is involved, copyright is retained by the creator and
if they don't explicitly say OK, it ain't OK.

You should -ask- in each case. Don't just assume. As has been
pointed out, what about those who may not be on the list, or too
busy to read every message, or who skip over messages with poor
subject lines like "TO ALL PLEASE READ"? Looks like half the spam I
get, I almost deleted without reading.

Look here for some info on copyrights in laymans terms:
http://www.templetons-dot-com/brad/copymyths.html

Internet is not public domain!

Steve Greenfield
Polymorph Digital Photography

--- Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com> wrote:
> Original poster: "Loudner, Godfrey by way of Terry Fritz
> <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <gloudner-at-SINTE.EDU>
> 
> Hi Tom
> 
> Any pictures on the internet are in the public domain. You can
> copy freely
> all the pictures you need for your school project as long as you
> do not
> profit financially from the pictures. However it is a courtesy to
> the owers
> of the sites to give them credit for their pictures. I can't see
> anyone
> objecting to nonprofit educational use of pictures taken from the
> internet. 
> 
> Godfrey Loudner    
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	Tesla list [SMTP:tesla-at-pupman-dot-com]
> > Sent:	Saturday, March 23, 2002 4:42 PM
> > To:	tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > Subject:	Re: TO ALL PLEASE READ
> > 
> > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
> > <Kidd6488-at-aol-dot-com>
> > 
> > In a message dated 3/22/02 2:56:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> > writes:
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > > If anyone has any objection to me using their content
> > > on my site, please e-mail me off this list.   
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > --Tom
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I think it might be better to ask:
> > "If anyone will LET me use their pictures please email off
> list"
> > 
> > Just a tip...
> > 
> > ---------------------------------------
> > Jonathon Reinhart
> > hot-streamer-dot-com/jonathon
> > 
> 
> 
>