Re: TC Secondary Currents - was ( Experimental Help - Terry?)

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Original poster: "Jim Lux by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <jimlux-at-earthlink-dot-net>

I wouldn't say that my experiments had a negative result, I'd say more
inconclusive... One should be able to experimentally verify any aspect of
Maxwell's equations, but, it might be quite a challenge.

An area where Maxwell will definitely break down, at least for readily
available measurement tools, is when you get to single photons and quantum
effects.  I'm not sure that Maxwell is an adequate model at that fine of a
level.  I've not thought much about it, but I suspect that talking of the
field of a single photon (or worse yet, two entangled photons produced by a
nonlinearity) might get you really wrapped around the axle.

At tesla coil frequencies, the photons have such low energy that for any
practical amount of power we deal with enormously large quantities, and so,
with statistical averages, which Maxwell does just fine with...
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Subject: Re: TC Secondary Currents - was ( Experimental Help - Terry?)


> Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> You experiments were what I was thinking of....  I guess I have to keep
> thinking...  Apparently this little confirmation of displacement currents
> is a real messy subject!  We may reach a dead end on this one where we
have
> a question that we cannot answer by experiment.
>
> Richard's simple challenge of displacement currents seems to have caught
us
> without being able to provide experimental evidence.  There is yet another
> frontier to explore in this but I am grasping for the simple way out...
>
> Thanks for keeping me from wasting time on a dead end...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Terry
>
>
> At 07:21 AM 3/6/2002 -0800, you wrote:
> >Oddly, some 25 years ago, I attempted to do just this measurement in high
> >school after I found out about Maxwell's equations... I had a capacitor
> >which was charged by a Wimshurst machine, with a magnetic probe in the
field
> >(multiple iron wires forming a core, and a sense coil on the core,
feeding
> >an amplifier and oscilloscope with a camera)  Never got any unequivocal
> >results, and I was just looking for some sort of qualitative result...
(move
> >the probe around in various orientations and positions, and the detected
B
> >field should change in some nice repeatable fashion...)
> >
> >The real problem is that c^2 proportionality constant.  It takes a HUGE
> >change in electric field going very fast (in my case, a spark gap
discharged
> >the cap) to produce a very small magnetic field, which is tough to detect
in
> >the presence of all that changing E field.
> >
> >
> >
>
>