[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: Variable Mutual Inductance Primary Tuning (VMIPT Sorry :o)))
Original poster: "Malcolm Watts by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <m.j.watts-at-massey.ac.nz>
HI Terry,
On 26 Jul 2002, at 15:48, Tesla list wrote:
> Original poster: "Terry Fritz" <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I don't know if this has been done, thought of, or discussed here before but.
>
> My Off-Line coil project will have a pretty fixed primary caps size, fixed
> primary inductor size, fixed secondary inductance, and reasonably fixed
> secondary capacitance. So there is a problem with tuning.
>
> Here is the idea.
>
> There will be two primary coils (actually two BIG single turn loops of
> copper). They will be movable so that the two loops are either very close
> together or maybe up to 6 inches away from each other. They will be wired
> in parallel.
>
> When they are close together, they will have high mutual inductance between
> each other so the "total" inductance will tend to increase. If one roughly
> assumes the inductance is proportional to N^2, I would get about 4X the
> inductance of a single loop when they are close together.
Only if they are wired in series. Consider that if k = 1 and they are
wired in parallel, they are effectively a 2-strand piece of Litz
wire.
> Now if I move them apart so the mutual inductance is low, they will tend to
> act as two magnetically separate inductors wired in parallel and the
> inductance will be roughly 1/2 that of a single loop.
>
> Theoretically. I could get a tuning range of 1/2 to 4 X that of a single
> loop in this way.
>
> Does that seem at all reasonable?? I really would not need a great range
> of tuning so if it just worked a little it would be fine. I ran a test
> case of this on MandK, realizing that it was never made to do this type of
> stuff, but I got the results attached at the end of this post.
>
> These coils have to be at least 1.5 inches apart where k=0.27 (M=0.24uH).
> At say 6 inches, K=0.0755 (M=0.067uH). The coils naturally have an
> inductance of 1.23uH (12 inches diameter copper tube 1 inch thick). The
> program gives the secondary (identical to the primary in this case) an
> inductance of 0.65uH.
>
> I suppose this would be like having two size full primary coils in which
> you vary the distance to tune them, which I think has been discussed
> before. But with just single turn loops, it may work better.
>
> Of course, I would have to make up and test something like this before I
> got too carried away, but I thought I would bring it up for ideas and
comments.
>
> ----------
> Everything else is going very well. I ordered up parts for the AC control
> cabinet which in this case will be pretty hollow and weigh about two pounds
> ;-) Basically just big switches rectifiers lights and fuses. But it
> interfaces the coil directly to the 240VAC line so it has to be pretty
> good. It only needs to handle about 5 amps so it's not to bad at all.
> Still very simple compared to a normal TC controller. Anyone who does not
> like hauling heavy stuff will love these Off-Line coils :o)) There just
> isn't any iron in them!
>
> I figure the IGBTs will dissipate a total of 20 watts and the anti-parallel
> diodes about 10 watts. So a 780 watt coil loosing only 30 watts to the
> gap! Trying for 95% efficiency ?) I am using maybe ten IRG4PF50WD IGBTs
> that do 900 volts and 204 amps peak for only $7 each. I'll get ten of them
> from DigiKey and see how it goes.
>
> http://www.irf-dot-com/product-info/datasheets/data/irg4pf50wd.pdf
>
> I am trying to locate ten Cornell-Dubilier 940C6W4P7K 4.7uF 600V film
> caps. Can't find them yet and stuff like this is hard for a "little guy"
> (even with a bottomless credit card) to get in tiny quantities. Any ideas?
> Chris B. is trying at his end (hope hope ?) Allied had the higher
> voltages, but not these. I think the factory has like 200 in stock so
> maybe they sell sample quantities direct.
>
> http://www.cornell-dubilier-dot-com/film/940600.htm
>
> Even though they are "just" metalized 940C types, they will work fine here.
> Ten in parallel will handle 168 amps RMS and 4920 amps peak! Easily
> enough for our needs. The dV/dT, inductance and series resistance is
> trivial. Unfortunately, they may be like $20 each ? Maybe someday, we can
> bulk buy them ?
>
> Not sure about the secondary yet until I get the primary inductance thing
> figured out. I have worked some on the zero crossing detection and control
> stuff but that should all be very conventional "bunch of ICs" stuff in a
> heavily shielded box.
>
> In general, the Off-Line coil is physically very simple with little real
> hardware to it. Lots of "completely different" ideas to it, but the goal
> is all the same. Very strange not dealing with transformers or high
> voltages, but just really high currents and very low resistances. Aside
> from the problem finding the caps, all the parts are easy off-the-shelf
> stuff. Anyone should be able to make one. You can't be quite as creative
> in just using any old parts, but you don't need many. The primary coils
> and circuits will probably be about 10 pounds if I use a heavy frame. The
> cost is say $50 for the secondary and top terminal, $200 for caps, $150 for
> IGBTs and control stuff. So about $400 right now. There will be all kinds
> of opportunities for improvements, but I am trying to keep is super simple,
> cheap.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Terry
I'm following your progess with interest.
Regards,
malcolm