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RE: my absolutely last post re: c^2 and Longitudinal Waves
Original poster: "Wall Richard Wayne by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <rwall-at-ix-dot-netcom-dot-com>
Hello Godfrey,
A few rebuttals to you statements.
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> Hi RWW
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> The purpose of the Michelson-Morley experiment was to detect the possible
> existence of an ether wind. Michelson and Morley did not detect an ether
> wind, nor did any other experimenters ever detect an ether wind.
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> Did M-M conclude that aether did not exist based on their null experiment? A
> simple yes or no will suffice.
> Their basic experimental assumptions on which the experiment is based are
> flawed and the experiment can never demonstrate absents of presents of the
> aether.
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> Einstein
> proposed his special theory of relativity to explain why no ether wind was
> detected. Einstein had to do away with the concept of absolute velocity.
> Even if an ether wind exist, it has been speculated that it can never be
> detected by any experiment. If an ether wind can never be observed, it
> cannot be included in any physical theory.
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> Terrible logic. Just because someone speculates (your terminology) something
> can never be detected by experiment or observation it cannot be included in
> any physical theory. This is Pure rubbish. Otherwise science would never
> advance by denying the existence of things prior to their discovery. Science
> just doesn't work this way. Example: Many aspects of quantum mechanics are
> not currently observable or proven by experiment. BUT quantum mechanical
> theory is now generally accepted by orthodox physics. Is it not?
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> The statement "aether is not orthogonally oriented to 3D space" has no
> meaning in differential geometry.
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> The above is a meaningless statement. Obviously I'm referring to 4D space
> which has frustrated description for centuries. Now comes the epic paper by
> N. Seiberg and E .Witten on "Monopoles,duality and chiral symmetry breaking
> in N = 2 supersymmetric QCD", Nuclear Physics B 431 (1334) 484-550. The
> exact metric on the moduli space of quantum vacua and the exact spectrum of
> the stable massive states are derived.
> Sorry Terry, I won't pursue this one further. 8>}
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> Nothing in Einstein's or Dirac's theories were based upon postulating the
> existence of an ether. Dirac won the Noble prize for his work on electron
> spin and proposing the existence of the positron. After Anderson's
> experiment proved the existence of the positron, Dirac was awarded the Noble
> prize for physics.
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> Ummm! Hmmm! Never heard of the "Dirac Sea"? You know that place were
> virtual particles continuously pop into and out of existence. Those positron
> particles postulated by Dirac positively flood the "Dirac Sea". The Casmir
> Effect caused by the asymmetric bombardment of these virtual vacuum particles
> is now definitely experimentally proven.
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> Also, please point out where Einstein disavowed the existence of Aether.
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> The Poynting vector has nothing to do with the ether concept.
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> Apparently you accept the Poynting force vector? Another simple question.
> From where does the force arise in the Poynting Force Vector?
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> Regards,
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> RWW
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