Re: TC discharges, safety, small coils

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Original poster: "Binny by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <binny-at-midmaine-dot-com>

Hello to whomever it may concern,
                                                      I am a survior of a
20,000 vott at 25 0 milliamp shock and this is my expirence for whatever it
is worth.It was an accident I was working on a big transmitter and I lost a
screwdriver under a piece of equipment.That chraged an ungrounded chasiss
with the off switch in it.When things started to go wrong I instinctively
went for the kill switch while like chance I still had the other hand on a
grounded one.The first thing I expirenced was WAMMMMM! like being kicked by
a work horse in the chest.Then the burning sensation of a hole about the
size of a #2 pencil lead that had been blown thru my finger.My body just
straightened out and was thrown across the room and toppled a bed as I flew
to hit the opposing wall bed and all.At that point I realized that my heart
had stopped and I had minutes left.I was totally blind and really scared
.All was quiet and I was loosing concionness and the bed frame  matress and
all that had gone flying with me toppled over only to have the frame hit me
squarely across my back and under my shoulders.Then I heard bells go off and
a loud explosion that I realized later was my heart taking it's first beat
after having been stopped .I regained full concioness but was completly
blind.Scared and sitting in the total darkness I shivered like a frozen
puppy just pulled out of an icy  pond.After more than 20 minutes my first
glimpse of light,I saw lines Only lines and in black and white.It was so
much better than that awlful darkness I remenber in a way that I think you
all can tell ,that you can never forget a detail.For the next four hours my
eye sight slowly came back in bits and pieces .I only hope that any and
everyone who works around high potitential voltage will read this and be
reminded of how much it can hurt you. Please feel  to learn from my
expierence..Binny
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Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: TC discharges, safety, small coils


 > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<dhmccauley-at-spacecatlighting-dot-com>
 >
 >  > >Of course. I still no reason to fear a wimpy coil like it's it's a
downed
 >  > >powerline in the alley. People here like to share only the large,
scary
 >  > >stories about accidents gone wrong to the max.
 >  > >
 >  > >You can burn your finger tips on some large plasma balls if you don't
 > press
 >  > >on them hard enough. It hardly makes them devices to hide from in
fear.
 >  > >
 >  > >KEN
 >
 > Thats a pretty cavalier attitude.  The primary circuit on a minicoil using
a
 > 4kV, 20mA transformer is MORE than enough
 > power to kill a child or even an adult especially if both hands are in the
 > circuit at one time.  And if you are a female, you are
 > have an even greater chance of dying through electrocution than a male.
 > This is based on the muscle composition between
 > males and females and upon their limits of "let-go" characteristics.
 >
 > Although relatively harmless, a shock from the output of my 4kV, 20mA coil
 > is more than enough to wake you up.  You get hit with that
 > and you'll definitely think twice next time before you get close to it
 > again!
 >
 > Dan
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 >  >
 >  >      Some people have survived 20 kV shocks, some have died from 90 V
 > ones.
 >  > What the numbers can say about the effects of HV is that out of a large
 >  > population exposed to a certain V, I, and f for a certain length of
time
 > t,
 >  > such and such a percentage are likely suffer injury, and so many are
 > likely
 >  > to die. Different combinations of V, I, f, and t have different
 >  > probabilities. "The Numbers" are gleaned from anecdotes of survivors,
and
 >  > autopsies of the rest. Not exactly quantitative measurements. Most of
the
 >  > controlled, quantitative experiments on death by electrocution
thankfully
 >  > ended with the collapse of Nazism in 1945, and most of the results were
 >  > never published. Only the CIA-backed "School of the Americas" still
does
 >  > studies in electro-torture and their results are also quite
confidential.
 >  >         Those who engage in cavalier behavior are more likely to kill
or
 >  > injure themselves. Unfortunately, those who engage in "cavalier
mouthing"
 >  > are likely to cause the injury or death of someone else. Did you know
that
 >  > in many states, a person giving out self-proclaimed "expert opinions"
can
 >  > be held both civilly and criminally liable for injuries or death
resulting
 >  > from careless advice, especially when such advice is given to minors?
 >  >
 >  > Matt D.
 >  > "I always listen to the oldest living safety experts. Time itself has
 >  > validated their opinion." D. H. Martin
 >  >
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