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Re: (Fwd) Re: Secondary Coil design *Correction*
Original poster: "G by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <bog-at-cinci.rr-dot-com>
>Original poster: "Malcolm Watts by way of Terry Fritz
><twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <m.j.watts-at-massey.ac.nz>
>
>Dear all,
> I said:
>
>On 16 Nov 2001, at 8:05, "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman.co wrote:
>
>> Hi Gregory,
>>
>> On 15 Nov 2001, at 11:54, Tesla list wrote:
>>
>> > Original poster: "G by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
><bog-at-cinci.rr-dot-com>
>> >
>> > Hello List,
>> >
>> > I have noticed a failure pattern in all of my secondary coils and am
>> > searching for a solution. Each one has had a failure within the
>> > bottom 25 turns (shorts between turns).During the most recent
>> > failure, I was watching the operation very carefully in a dark room
>> > and I am sure there wasn't any arc struck between the secondary and
>> > the primary, or even corona.
>>
>> The highest voltage gradient per turn occurs in the bottom portion of
>> the coil. Polythermaleze wire should fail in that fashion so it
>> suggests to me that the wire insulation is not the best for this
>> application.
>
>The "should" in the second sentence should of course be "should not"!
>
>My apologies all.
>
>Regards,
>Malcolm
<snip>
Hello Everyone,
Yes, I believe the insulation is not as good as it could be. It is
polyurethane nylon, which feature seems to be a 155 degree celsius
rating. But I bought it cheaply from Brigar (thanks Michael), so I
will definitely try spacewinding the wire. Will spacing the first 100
turns or so be sufficient?
Here are some specs for those interested:
power supply: MOT doubler for 12 kv, 240 v 20 a circuit, contactor actuated
primary: 23 turns 1/4" copper, 1/4" spacing, tapped at 21 (21 to 23
seem to have exactly the same performance)
cap: Geek cap MMC, 0.041 uf 20 kv
gap: variac controlled right angle grinder ASRG, 11000 rpm, 5
tungsten flying electrodes, 1 or 2 gap for bps selection, plywood disk
secondary: 8.5" dwv pvc pipe, 28 gauge wire, 2000 turns, 26" winding length
topload: 3" flex drain pipe/al tape corona shield, 2 4" x 25" stacked
flex pipe toroids
extras: strike ring with inline 2" spark gap, 20 a emi filter ($1.95
-at- meci-dot-com)
So far, I have measured sustained 55" strikes to ground. I will try
increasing my tank wire gauge from its current 8 ga to gain some more
efficiency. Also, a larger topload is needed. I have 7" drain pipe to
use for that. I have pfc caps to be added.
QTC predicts a 50 khz operating frequency. I have not verified this
with any measurement.
I found that the doubler circuit works nicely to limit line current
draw (by way of inline capacitors). I am not sure if it is possible
to have a resonant rise in a doubler circuit, but the doubler circuit
capacitors would be near resonance with the transformer when the
diode is forward biased. I am quite pleased with the jump in streamer
intensity versus my 15/60 nst supply. I am sure with the new wiring
and topload this baby will be pushing 6-7 feet.
As a side note, I found that my home furnace thermostat wire runs
nearby the coil- after its control board mysteriously stopped working
:)
Thanks to all of you for supplying your ideas and inspiration, and,
again, to Chip and Terry for making this community possible.
Gregory