Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <Fucian-at-aol-dot-com> I got a 4.5 amp GE VOLT PAC on ebay for 13.50.Shipping was like 4 bucks too!Thats cheap for tranformers.I know 4.5 amps isnt much for tesla coils but it was great for all sorts of flyback and solid state coils.It was unused and brand new as well. matt