Grounding Was: All pain no gain

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Original poster: "Garry F. by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <garryfre-at-pacbell-dot-net>

Earlier I made a reply to the message below to the list. I have asked that
it not be posted as I feel regrets over the tone of my reply. I apologize...

On to the reply I probably should have sent in first place ...

Keep in mind that I've had this coil since last September and I've not had
anything scramble, nor short out. I am using two rf filters on the grounding
cable but I think this might just negate the ground. Since I have been
running this thing for some months, maybe, the ground is near the plug I
use. I think the apartments are individually grounded.

There also is no other ground available. All pipes are PVC and there is no
yard. There is a porch, but I would have to remove the fence to drive a
grounding rod.

I mentioned this in my original post.

Ok Sir, in order to do as you say, I would have to ...

A. Move. Cannot do that, not in a position to move.

B. Run coil ungrounded. Nope, would just arc to high voltage lines and cause
worse havoc.

C. Never run my coil IE: Give up coiling.

Which do you think I should do?

What about hooking the coil up to the faucet? I have a care about this one.
Something about mixing electricity and water.

Specs
NST 12kv/60ma 700 watts?
Dunno the output. is 3' streamers max.
Secondary is 3.95" OD with 19.5" of wound area of 28 guage magnet wire.
Topload is 12" spun toroid.
Primary of 11 turns, flat, tapped at ~10 turns.
MMC .013uF
Static air cooled.

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What about a double poled coil? I bet it would be infinately more difficult
to build but probably the ideal coil to build if you in my less than
enviable position.

I am guessing that the length of such a double poled secondary would be
double the length of the current one. (2 * 19.5" = 40 inches).

What about the toploads? Half sized or the same size? 40" - 12" would leave
28" between the two. It would be a bit unwieldy. Probably better for me to
ask if the water tap would work.

Someone mentioned a counterpoise ground but I think there are wires under
the floor.

Not one to be daunted in my trying to follow advice I looked outside and
found a metal pipe outside the window. I might be able to run a jumper cable
from the window frame to the pipe but I am worried about wires in the wall
next to the frame. Might it not radiate RF? I also would hate to find out
that the unused pipe goes near the water heater. Ba ba boom!!

The only other alternative I can think of other than giving up coiling till
I can move next year would be tossing a wire in the tank on the commode!
Ohhh wee! Wouln't want to sit on that!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
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Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 5:24 PM
Subject: Re: All pain no gain


> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
<Gbjsjg-at-aol-dot-com>
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> Need more infor to help you. Do not use wall plug ground!!!!!!
> power input-output
> secondary size
> primary-turns where it is tapped
> capacitor what kind
> spark gap what kind
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