Re: Cavalier Attitude (Was Metal Rotor = Isolated Motor?)

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Original poster: "Nebojsa Kovacevic by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <morfeus-at-EUnet.yu>

Hi David, all,

I have to tell that I agree with you all in your comments as well as anyone
who`s still wrighting on the List, becouse they knew what they dealing
with...

Play safe please!

Regards,
Nele!
-----Original Message-----
From: Tesla list <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
To: tesla-at-pupman-dot-com <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 5:48 AM
Subject: Re: Cavalier Attitude (Was Metal Rotor = Isolated Motor?)


>Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>"
<Tesla729-at-cs-dot-com>
>
>In a message dated 6/25/01 5:57:13 PM Central Daylight Time,
tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>writes:
>
>
>>
>> Jim DeLillo by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-qwest-dot-net>" <
>> jimdel-at-bellatlantic-dot-net>
>>
>> Jason,
>>
>> I would think that you would have much more respect for electricity.
>>
>> Mains voltage can be lethal.  Even though YOU hardly notice it all
>> anymore.
>>
>> There is a range of current. I believe that it is between .75 and 1.00
>> milliamps which will stop the heart. ( I am sure somebody on the list
>> can quote this better).  The voltage almost doesn't matter even a mere
>> 12 volts will do the job and thats 1/10th standard mains voltage.
>>
>> Along the same lines, I believe that there is a frequency that will also
>> trigger fibrillation of the heart, regardless of voltage.
>>
>
>
>
>Jason, Jim, all
>
>I'm not sure about how much current it takes to stop your heart,
>I've heard 25 to 50 mA. I do know if the body's skin resistance is
>brought down low enough, it dosen't take much voltage at all to
>cause a noticable electric shock.
>
>Case in point: Last week I was changing out the starter on my
>old truck and I had to disconnect the terminals of the battery to
>burnish and clean off the battery terminals to get better contact,
>which of course is a must for the several hundred amps at only
>a few volts that are required to turn over the starter. Anyway, it
>was hot outside and naturally, I was sweating. I happened to
>touch the POS terminal of the battery while the sweaty forearm
>of my other arm was resting on a bare metal spot of the body of
>the truck. Well, needless to say, I quickly removed my forearm
>from the truck, as I got a very annoying tingle at that spot on my
>forearm

>
>My point is a mere 12.96 volts (according to my DVM) from the
>battery was enough to give me a shock when the conditions were
>just right. Of course, sweat has a good deal of natural salt in it
>which yields to increased ionization and is a better conductor than
>plain tap water. So, I have to agree very strongly with Jim on this
>thread.
>
>BTW Jason, most MOTs put out around 2000 volts, which is less
>than 2500 volts, but this 2000 volts is positively deadly! Please do
>be careful with this stuff but if you're not going to be careful, then
>please don't tell us about it! No one on this list wants to see you
>end up seriously injuring or KILLING yourself from simple negle-
>gence and carelessness. Probably most of us have been "bit" a
>few times in  the past, it's all a part of the learning curve, but you'd
>better have your learning curve straightened out before you start
>messing with the lethal stuff. One mistake with an OBIT will be
>quite unpleasant, but you will live through it. One mistake with a
>pole pig, x-ray tranny, or PT and you're toast! It's that simple!
>
>And I'm sure the Feds would just love to get involved in "protect-
>ing" us coilers from ourselves. And the news media would certain-
>ly jump on a coil-related "accident" like a flock of vultures! If some-
>one gets zapped from there own stupidity, we may all end up suf-
>fering the consequences of one man's (or woman's) foolishness.
>
>So, like I said, if you absolutely refuse to be careful with electricity,
>do the rest of us coilers a favor and don't advertise it! Be careful and
>enjoy many years of an enjoyable hobby; be careless and we'll be
>reading about you!
>
>Keep it Sparkin' Safely, Please,
>David Rieben
>
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