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Re: Are Monster Toploads Really Needed?



Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <tesla123-at-pacbell-dot-net>

Hi Al,

You can't post it to the list. But you can put it up on a web site and then
reference
the web site in a post. A jpg would be best. If you don't already have a
web site or
buddy who can do this for you, I would be glad to upload it to my site for
you. Just
send it to tesla123-at-pacbell-dot-net

Take care,
Bart A.

Tesla list wrote:

> Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
<uncadoc-at-juno-dot-com>
>
> Hi Bart, John, Terry, All.  Would it be possible for me to scan in a
> diagram of the exact components of my arcing Tesla coil (with no toriod)
> to the list?  I can write down the schematic and all parameters and
> components so that the toriodless mystery can be solved by the more
> knowledgeable list members than I.  I have a Visioneer scanner and can
> scan a schematic drawing but will anyone be able to open the .aim file
> without downloading the visioneer software from the website.  If not,
> then how can I post a scheme of my toriodless coil to the list?  Can I
> convert my scanner file drawing to a jpg?   Anyway,  I can get the same
> length spark from my coil no matter what the topload.  I simply need to
> tune the primary for any given topload and the arcs will be the same
> length.  A beer can atop the secondary will give the same arc length as a
> larger aluminum duct toriod.  These are just my findings, maybe my coils
> are just some kind of mutiods, you know, I made them without any computer
> programs, so maybe, just maybe my coils are dancing to the beat of a
> different drum, and maybe, they should not work at all, but they do!   If
> I can scan my coil and its parameters, then perhaps you guys with the
> computer tools can explain what is going on here!   Al.
>
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 07:58:53 -0600 "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> writes:
> > Original poster: "Barton B. Anderson by way of Terry Fritz
> > <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <tesla123-at-pacbell-dot-net>
> >
> > Hi Al,
> >
> > It may be possible you are seeing no difference on your coil due to
> > "something" about
> > the design. I would be curious as to your coil, power, and charging
> > system
> > specs if
> > it's not too much trouble.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bart A.
> >
> > Tesla list wrote:
> >
> > > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
> > <uncadoc-at-juno-dot-com>
> > >
> > > Hi all, Is it not possible that a tank circuit with an
> > appropriately
> > > wound coil could work without a monster toriod topload and give
> > equally
> > > devastating arcs?  I still stand by my statement that our coil can
> > > produce an equal arc when tuned with a toroid, sphere, or no
> > topload at
> > > all.  The arc length remains the same as long as the primary is
> > tuned for
> > > optimum coupling.    Al.
> > >
> > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:03:40 -0600 "Tesla list" <tesla-at-pupman-dot-com>
> > > writes:
> > > > Original poster: "by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>"
> > > > <FutureT-at-aol-dot-com>
> > > >
> > > > Message to newbies,
> > > >
> > > > I would not want newbies to be misled. Most coils
> > > > will give much longer sparks when the properly
> > > > sized toroid is used.  I have to admit that I've never yet seen
> > a
> > > > coil
> > > > that does not benefit from the use of a properly sized toroid.
> > To
> > > > give just one example, my old coil that gave 40" sparks from a
> > > > 12/30 NST, gave only 26" or so with no toroid.  My newer coil
> > gives
> > > > the longest sparks (42") using a 4" by 13" toroid.  If I replace
> > > > that with
> > > > a 3" by 10" toroid, the sparks are reduced to about 33".  Of
> > course
> > > > I tune for longest sparks in every case.  Of course a spherical
> > > > topload can give excellent results also.   The bottom line is
> > that
> > > > not only do Tesla coils benefit from the use of a toroid or
> > sphere
> > > > on top, they also benefit from having the *properly sized*
> > topload.
> > > > There is a topload size *range* within which the results will be
> > > > similar.
> > > >
> > > > Of course besides giving longer sparks, toploads also provide
> > other
> > > > benefits such as; shielding the top secondary turns from corona,
> > > > aiming the sparks horizontally, giving a more spectacular
> > display,
> > > > brightening the sparks, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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