Original poster: "will dork by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>" <vcdmasta-at-hotmail-dot-com> I ws wondering on the coil made by tesla himself, was the ribbon standing on the thin side or was it laying flat out? Thanks Will McManus ---------- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <http://explorer.msn-dot-com>http://explorer.msn-dot-com