opps...winding the primary

["Mike Waddick" <Mike_W_-at-hotmail-dot-com> (by way of Terry Fritz <twftesla-at-uswest-dot-net>)]

hi all,
 
i am winding my primary and it is really starting to hack me off! i am using
1/4in od copper tube. it is a pancake coil that is 9 turns and it wont stay in
place does anyknow "the KEY" to getting a perfet primary? i have seen some real
nice ones and i just cant see how. some say just work slowly...well that dount
seem to work i haev spent more time on the primary then i spent winding the
secondary. 
 
also i am looking for a varic ya i have seen them for sale but ya know $$ is
always a issue and they are likr 160 dollers does that seem right? does anyone
know how i can optian one for cheaper or is this as cheap as they come? 
 
thanks alot,
 
MIKE