Heres somethin new to try: if you have a spherical discharge terminal then try wrapping it up in aluminum foil and forming a "point" at one end, like a lightening conductor. place it on your coil with the point facing upwards, and power up. If you try this, please e-mail me at MDip894456-at-AOL-dot-com to tell me how it went. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE