magnify power (was Voltage/Length)

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Subject: magnify power (was Voltage/Length)
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Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:02:22 -0600
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From:  Thornton, Russ #CSR2000 [SMTP:ThorntoR-at-rc.pafb.af.mil]
Sent:  Wednesday, January 28, 1998 6:31 AM
To:  'Tesla discussion Group'
Subject:  RE: magnify power (was Voltage/Length)


>From:  Jim Monte [SMTP:JDM95003-at-UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU]
>Sent:  Saturday, January 24, 1998 10:34 AM
>To:  tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
>Subject:  Re: magnify power (was Voltage/Length)
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>John,
>
>Would you explain this a bit more?
>"The TC can magnify power which makes it unique in the electrical world as
>no other electrical device can do this magic."
>
>If by "magnify power" you mean receive energy from one source, store
>that energy, and then transfer that energy energy elsewhere at a rate
>higher than it was received, I don't see where this is unique to Tesla
>coils.  A  Tesla coil stores energy in electric and magnetic fields that
>it received elsewhere (usually some form of HV transformer) and
>transfers the energy elsewhere (as in to a streamer) in bursts.
>Gradually charging a capacitor and then shorting its terminals seems to
>me to be essentially the same concept.  Energy is gradually stored then
>quickly transferred during the short.  Charging a car battery at a
>relatively low rate and then using the battery to crank over the engine
>while starting is also similar.  The energy is stored over a relatively
>long period of time (as chemical energy in this case) and then some of
>this energy is used by the starter at a much higher rate for a
>relatively short time. 

This is not a good example as a charger or alternator is not directly
replacing the energy to run the starter motor. It maintains the chemical
potential within the cells.  I have read that you would have to drive
200 miles before the alternator could generate the energy needed for a
single start.
Just a clarification.

> Am I missing something?  

I don't think so as I agree with the first example. I share your
confusion.

>Jim Monte
>
>>From:  John H. Couture [SMTP:couturejh-at-worldnet.att-dot-net]
>>Sent:  Friday, January 23, 1998 8:48 PM
>>To:  Tesla List
>>Subject:  Re: Voltage/Length (fwd)
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>>  Greg -
>>
>>  There is no question that the energy in the secondary circuit is less than
>>the energy in the primary circuit as I indicated. However, you did not
>>address the issue of POWER in the secondary circuit. This power is much
>>greater than in the primary circuit. This means that the energy equation you
>>used must be modified to reflect power not energy in the secondary circuit.
>>The sec voltage is not RMS as in the pri circuit.
>>
>>  The TC can magnify power which makes it unique in the electrical world as
>>no other electrical device can do this magic. This confounds many engineers,
>>scientists, etc. who are not familiar with TC operation. This makes TC
>>design a challenge to produce a good coil.
><snip>
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>
>Russ Thornton
>CSR 2040, 
>Building 989, Rm.  A1-N20
>Phone: (407) 494-6430 
>Email: thorntor-at-rc.pafb.af.mil
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