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Voltage/Length (fwd)




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From:  Malcolm Watts [SMTP:MALCOLM-at-directorate.wnp.ac.nz]
Sent:  Tuesday, February 10, 1998 4:04 PM
To:  Tesla List
Subject:  Re: Voltage/Length (fwd)

Hi Jim,
         I have to disagree with you:

> From:  HomerLea-at-aol-dot-com [SMTP:HomerLea-at-aol-dot-com]
> Sent:  Monday, February 09, 1998 10:12 AM
> To:  tesla-at-pupman-dot-com
> Subject:  Re: Voltage/Length (fwd)
> 
> In a message dated 98-02-09 05:51:45 EST, you write:
> 
> > > The equation Vs = Vp sqrt(Cp/Cs) follows directly from 
> >  > Conservation of Energy, and simply sets an _upper limit_ 
> >  > for Vs.  It's true that Vs can drop below this amount 
> >  > if the coil is inefficient, but Vs can never be _larger_ 
> >  > than this quantity.
> >  
> >  Unquestionably true!
> >  
> Not so!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It seems that the whole idea of a Tesla
> coil(resonance) is being overlooked in this discussion. The above equation is
> valid if, one time,  you take all the energy from one capacitor and transfer
> it to another cap.

That is exactly what you are doing in a disruptive TC. Each primary 
cap charge is separate from the previous one at the typical break 
rates we use. Even if a spark doesn't issue, the power still gets 
lost before the next primary cap discharge. If you put too large a 
topload on your system, it will never break out. Check it all out on 
an oscilloscope.

> In a resonant system you are taking oscillations or pulses
> from one system (Tesla primary) and adding them up in a second system (Tesla
> secondary -- an LC energy storage reservoir).
> 
> The equation  Vs = Vp sqrt(Cp/Cs)  should be Vs = Vp sqrt(NCp/Cs) where N is
> the number of cycles or pulses transferred from the primary (if at 100%
> efficiency).
> 
>  A bigger torroid gives a bigger spark because it allows the voltage to rise
> to a higher value before "breakout"(allowing N to be larger). If 100%
> efficiency could be reached, a giant torroid would allow the primary to pump
> up the secondary LC system for a week with one spectacular spark at "breakout"
> from the torroid (and a very large voltage).
> 
> jim heagy, rambling on

Time for the scope I think.
Malcolm