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Re: It works, But I want more. (fwd)
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Subject: Re: It works, But I want more. (fwd)
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From: Tesla List <tesla-at-stic-dot-net>
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Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 00:01:44 -0600
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Approved: tesla-at-stic-dot-net
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References: <970304200336_1713797520-at-emout04.mail.aol-dot-com>
Esondrmn-at-aol-dot-com wrote:
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> In a message dated 97-03-04 00:17:21 EST, you write:
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> << Thanks to everyone for helping get my first coil off the ground.
>
> Especially Mike Hammer and Bert Pool, who helped and helped and
> helped.
>
> Ok, here are the specs:
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> corcom rf ac filter
>
> 5a variac
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> 9kv x 30ma (I have another 9 x 30 and two more 12 x 30; just limiting
> exposure to stupidity)
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> 1/2" spark gap
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> 2" pvc x ~100 turns 22 ga. chokes
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> 1 1/2" copper tube x 7 -at- .028" spark gap w/ muffin fan
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> 60" x 14" x .093ldpe rolled cap (.007995 uf per my Radio Shack meter)
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> 12" id 3/8" + 3/8 clearance x 10 turns 30 degree spiral primary
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> 6" clear acrylic tube x 24" (~900 turns) 22 ga. secondary
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> 5" x 12" drain pipe toroid (I know it's small but nothing happens with
> the big one.)
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> 8 ' ground rod w/ 8ga. ground wire to base of secondary
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> I get:
> blue 15" streamers into air (they don't photograph well)
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> occasional 15" white streamers to nearby grounded objects
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> a few lines of interference on tv
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>
> I noticed that the primary works best wide open. Any reduction of
> windings reduces output. Do I need a bigger primary coil or
> jus mo juice?
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> I'm ready to try some of these other transformers.
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> I know I can strap xformers of equal value, and that's next
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> Now don't laugh, I can't help that I don't know any better.
> What about strapping all 4 of my neons together:
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> ----------------*|||*---------------
> *|||*
> *|||*
> 240vac ~140 *|||*12kv 30ma * 2
> vac *|||*
> single |-------*|||*-----| =~21kv -at- 60ma
> phase | |
> |-------*|||*-----|
> *|||*
> ~100 *|||* 9kv 30ma * 2
> vac *|||*
> ----------------*|||*---------------
>
>
> of course, even if it worked, I'd need another capacitor in series.
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>
> All comments and suggestions are badly needed.
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> David Christal 3341 Cloverdale Lane, Dallas, TX 75234
> 214 349-6972 (214 FIX MY PC) (Pool Cues and Personal Computers)
> >>
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> David,
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> Sounds like a good project, about the same as my 6" coil. I did some
> calculations on your coil. Your are correct, you are just on the edge of
> being in tune. I calculate the correct tune for your given parameters would
> be at turn 10.5. If you remove the toroid or use a smaller one, you should
> be able to tune it now. You need a .0088 mfd cap to tune it as described.
> The best bet, if possible would be to add two turns to the primary. This
> will give you some room to add the larger toroid. You might also consider
> building another capacitor and using the two in parallel. I am glad to see
> that you used .093 poly (instead of .063).
>
> The inside dia. of you primary seems unusually large to me. You have allowed
> 3.0" clearance from the secondary. I think my primary is 2.0" (I.D.) larger
> that the secondary O.D. - allowing 1.0" clearance. Of course my coupling was
> too tight and I had to raise the secondary up 2 or 3" to fix that. I doubt
> if that is costing you much in output.
>
> I use a .025 mfd cap, 14 turn primary (tuned about 13) and a 40" toroid.
>
> You can parallel as many transformers as your variac can handle but they must
> all be the same voltage rating. With a 5 amp variac, you will probably need
> to add a power factor correction cap across the primaries if you use two or
> more in parallel, to keep the variac current as low as possible.
>
> With the two 12kv transformers in parallel, and the system in tune, you
> should be able to get about 3 foot sparks. This coil should perform well and
> scale up just fine as you desire to add additional power.
>
> Ed Sonderman